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Juge · 09-27-2001, 04:16 AM

Eros, when you said "move on old man", I took that as a pretty hefty shot at one of the best athletes in world, and still one of the best.

I do see your point. I don't know if it can be attributed all to his ego, though. Everyone who has ever commented on him, who has played against him, said that his desire to win, his competitiveness, is greater than anyone they've ever seen. Jordan himself has commented on this, when he was practicing with the original dream team, he said the other guys were just fooling around. Jordan always gives it his all whether it's a practice or a real game. He said he realized that that is was separated him among the others. Imagine that - he's in another league even among arguably the 12 best basketball players on the planet.

I for one, agree, based on what I've seen and heard from other players. I've heard players talk about practices with him, when one man gets the best of him for just one move (it has to happen, the guy?s not superman, even though he?s the closest thing), and Jordan goes nuts on the guy for the remainder of the practice. He can't have someone out-doing him for even a second. He once lost a ping-pong (table tennis) match against another team member, and he practiced at it until he could kick everyone's ass. How many people do you know are like that? Probably none. Definitely none at his extreme level.

It?s so easy for people just to say he has a big ego and wants to be in the spotlight and wants more money. But the truth is far from it. Jordan wasn?t even one of the highest paid players when he was playing, after it was very evident that he was the best in the league. Do you think he cared about money? Or that he was broke? Yes, he did have a lot from endorsements, but I am sure he still has a few dollars in the bank. I mean, doesn?t he own a few rather expensive things, like some sports teams. Jordan can go in a commercial any time he wishes to make a few extra bucks.

Remember also that his dad died a rather tragic death, one that Jordan himself didn?t want to know the reason of, after his 3rd championship. No one can put themselves in his shoes to fully understand the reasons he quit at that time.

I could understand that maybe he doesn?t like that Kobe is in the limelight, especially considering that he is not even half of what Jordan was. But to attribute him coming back for those measily reasons is rather ridiculous.

I?m not trying to say I know it all, I think the smartest thing is to understand that we don?t know it all, and to state that it?s happening for just a few simple reasons and largely ignoring other possibilities is wrong.

But, personally, I think if anyone deserves to have an ego, it?s Michael Jordan... if you don't like, it, go fuck yourself. Or better yet, become the best player at some sport until you are so good you can reinvent the game and become bigger than it.

It's so typical of people to say 'yawn', or 'he aint shit anymore'. He's still better the majority of the league. Yet, you guys will still bitch that he's not still the best. Of course he's not.

[This message has been edited by Juge (edited 09-27-2001).]

09-27-2001, 04:16 AM
Juge Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,917	Eros, when you said "move on old man", I took that as a pretty hefty shot at one of the best athletes in world, and still one of the best. I do see your point. I don't know if it can be attributed all to his ego, though. Everyone who has ever commented on him, who has played against him, said that his desire to win, his competitiveness, is greater than anyone they've ever seen. Jordan himself has commented on this, when he was practicing with the original dream team, he said the other guys were just fooling around. Jordan always gives it his all whether it's a practice or a real game. He said he realized that that is was separated him among the others. Imagine that - he's in another league even among arguably the 12 best basketball players on the planet. I for one, agree, based on what I've seen and heard from other players. I've heard players talk about practices with him, when one man gets the best of him for just one move (it has to happen, the guy?s not superman, even though he?s the closest thing), and Jordan goes nuts on the guy for the remainder of the practice. He can't have someone out-doing him for even a second. He once lost a ping-pong (table tennis) match against another team member, and he practiced at it until he could kick everyone's ass. How many people do you know are like that? Probably none. Definitely none at his extreme level. It?s so easy for people just to say he has a big ego and wants to be in the spotlight and wants more money. But the truth is far from it. Jordan wasn?t even one of the highest paid players when he was playing, after it was very evident that he was the best in the league. Do you think he cared about money? Or that he was broke? Yes, he did have a lot from endorsements, but I am sure he still has a few dollars in the bank. I mean, doesn?t he own a few rather expensive things, like some sports teams. Jordan can go in a commercial any time he wishes to make a few extra bucks. Remember also that his dad died a rather tragic death, one that Jordan himself didn?t want to know the reason of, after his 3rd championship. No one can put themselves in his shoes to fully understand the reasons he quit at that time. I could understand that maybe he doesn?t like that Kobe is in the limelight, especially considering that he is not even half of what Jordan was. But to attribute him coming back for those measily reasons is rather ridiculous. I?m not trying to say I know it all, I think the smartest thing is to understand that we don?t know it all, and to state that it?s happening for just a few simple reasons and largely ignoring other possibilities is wrong. But, personally, I think if anyone deserves to have an ego, it?s Michael Jordan... if you don't like, it, go fuck yourself. Or better yet, become the best player at some sport until you are so good you can reinvent the game and become bigger than it. It's so typical of people to say 'yawn', or 'he aint shit anymore'. He's still better the majority of the league. Yet, you guys will still bitch that he's not still the best. Of course he's not. [This message has been edited by Juge (edited 09-27-2001).]