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Old 09-19-2001, 07:07 PM  
UnseenWorld
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Big Ben wrote:

You claim that Israel is the only cause for the bomb on US. I disagree on that.

My reply is:

So do I. I never said that. I said you can trace it back to there. That is the insult that started Islamic militancy against the US and its allies.

Big Ben wrote:

You see this problem doesn't start with the creation of Israel it's roots are far far more in the past. This struggle/war is in its original ideological/religious and has been thru the history in that way or another. You see Judaism religion is older than Christianity and Islam. In a matter of fact Christianity became from Judaism. And I'll explain why. Jesus was a Jew. He was a great prophet that brought new ideas and ideology to the new order but the old Jews rejected his ideas and prophets. When Jesus was crossed above his head was hang a tablet with the writing "The King of Jews". But there were those that do followed him and formed a new religion. Christianity. So if the former of Christian religion was a Jew it makes all the Christians in that way or another Jews.

My reply is:

Thanks for the religious history lesson. As someone who has taugh comparative religion on the college level, I really needed that. I'm writing about modern Islamic political militancy, which starts with the displacement of Palestinians to create Israel.

Big Ben wrote:

And there also rises a third big religion that much different from Judaism and Christianity. Islam. Well all the big wars in the history were cause of a religious conflicts. And this is the same old conflict.

My reply is:

So, where is the big conflict between Christianity and Judaism?

Big Ben wrote:

Well the Jews were hunted all over the history by so many I can't even count. And guess why? Cause of their religion.
All this kind Bin laden's same as Hitler believe that Jews and Christians need to be exterminated. And Judaism first because its the root of Christianity. Well they all almost succeeded. Open an atlas in a population spread by a religion and you will see that most of the modern world is a Christianity + Israel with Judaism. All the Arab countries are with Islam. All the wars and conflicts are in the borders between the modern world and the Islamic world. War in Chechnia, Serbia, Africa ... are all between 2 sides Christians and Muslims. Well as I understand it, it not only Israel's problem or Russians problem or American problem this Islamic terror already spread on all of the world and is the problem of the whole modern world. Cause it is the one that they wana blow and their fanaticism is based on.

My reply is:

I think your train of thought derailed in there somewhere. How about a summary?

Big Ben wrote:

I think you guys need to wake up and see the whole picture. It effects more than America and not only American's problem.

My reply is:

Yes, but we have part of the problem and it's one something must be done about.

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