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Old 05-10-2004, 07:24 AM  
gwilkins
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Originally posted by CamChicks
Saddam informed Washington in advance of his plans to settle a border/oil dispute with Kuwait with military force. Our administration at the time told him we (the USA) had no opinion on the matter.

Up until this, Saddam has been our ally, fighting against radical Islam, Iran, who had allied with the communists. We helped put him in power and supported his regime. Then Bush Sr doublecrossed him for political/economic gain.

With communism no longer a threat, he didn't think we needed Saddams help anymore. After that it was easy to demonize him because the vast majority of americans are completely ignorant of world history and world politics.

Yes, he "killed his own people" . . the same people we are killing now!; religious fundamentalists who oppose a secular government, who want Iraq to be an Islamic state governed by Islamic Law. Saddam did many things to encourage Iraq to turn from a religion-based society to a secular-based society with radical programs like mandatory literacy with threat of jail if you didn't learn how to read.

Yes, he "gassed the Kurds" . . while fighting Iran he could not fight a war on two fronts (forieign and civil), so he used what he had at his disposal to end the rebellion. The Kurds are not the good guys in this story. They are bastards too. They kill their daughters if they dishonor the family and all that crazy shit we hate arab cultures for. They have been fighting with Iraq and Turkey on and off for centuries over land they have no historical claim to.

America had a civil war too, but we don't call Lincoln a madman.
No doubt Saddam was a brutal fuck, as brutal as he had to be.
Our regime has been learning that lesson over the past year.

In brief, Bush Sr fucked up by making an enemy out of a valuable ally (the only strong secular leader in the middle east) and Bush Jr fucked up by giving Iraq over to religious islamic control (as soon as our troops leave). World history and world politics would be very different today if not for this father and son team.
Good post.
If I remember correctly Iraq was the 'rogue' OPEC country that was responsible for lowering the price of crude oil from $40+ dollars a barrel to $4 ish. Why are prices now going up?
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