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jayeff · 05-09-2004, 01:33 AM

TGP traffic is notoriously poor, so the promise of no-popup tours is just one thing in the search to make the most of it that you can. And face it, the surfers who will visit tours are certainly the ones you want to treat the best. The ones who will look are the only ones who can buy.

I have a few sites for which I don't really expect repeat visitors and for them I will tolerate consoles. But I never actually like them.

I have been cynical about consoles ever since I realized that some sponsors made no real effort to sell via their tours. It is just easier to avoid consoles completely, than figure out their place in every sponsor's strategy, what I do and don't get paid for, etc.

And consoles are to blame for a lot of people's reluctance to click on sponsor links. We forget that file requests hitting our servers actually have real people on the other end. I don't know how we ever managed to convince ourselves it smart to play games no bricks-and-mortar business would contemplate for a second.

Sure they made money. And if you throw enough mud some of it sticks. But it was also a lazy and destructive way to filter traffic, offer options, etc. Consoles have never done anything which with a little more thought, couldn't be done some other way.

As to the argument about the need to shave if consoles go. Well that depends on who you believe: the sponsors who say that these days consoles generate very little income, or the ones who (based on their deductions for console-free tours) want you to think that consoles still generate 15%-20% of their income. In any case, consoles or not, there is no guarantee you won't be shaved.

05-09-2004, 01:33 AM
jayeff Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,944	TGP traffic is notoriously poor, so the promise of no-popup tours is just one thing in the search to make the most of it that you can. And face it, the surfers who will visit tours are certainly the ones you want to treat the best. The ones who will look are the only ones who can buy. I have a few sites for which I don't really expect repeat visitors and for them I will tolerate consoles. But I never actually like them. I have been cynical about consoles ever since I realized that some sponsors made no real effort to sell via their tours. It is just easier to avoid consoles completely, than figure out their place in every sponsor's strategy, what I do and don't get paid for, etc. And consoles are to blame for a lot of people's reluctance to click on sponsor links. We forget that file requests hitting our servers actually have real people on the other end. I don't know how we ever managed to convince ourselves it smart to play games no bricks-and-mortar business would contemplate for a second. Sure they made money. And if you throw enough mud some of it sticks. But it was also a lazy and destructive way to filter traffic, offer options, etc. Consoles have never done anything which with a little more thought, couldn't be done some other way. As to the argument about the need to shave if consoles go. Well that depends on who you believe: the sponsors who say that these days consoles generate very little income, or the ones who (based on their deductions for console-free tours) want you to think that consoles still generate 15%-20% of their income. In any case, consoles or not, there is no guarantee you won't be shaved.