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Originally posted by Lycanthrope
"Just because members of the canadian military made mistakes back in the early 90's does not make it right for americans to do the same. Im sure I could find stats showing war crimes the US committed in WWII, does that make it alright for canada to have done it in Somalia? No. Get your heads out of your asses."
No one ever said it was right. I merely started this thread to give a FEW particular bashers a little history refresher. Funny that none of the people this was really directed to even participated.
"Its not just CANADIANS that are calling the US out about their blatant disregard for their prisoners lives, its the entire world. Canada just has a louder voice than most on this board because of the high member rate. Live with it."
A blatant disregard for life would mean the taking of it. They're still alive, therefore their lives were regarded. We ARE living with your rights to opinions, comments, etc. Certainly we are allowed our own. We're South of you, not beneath you.
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By blatant disregard for life I meant quality of life. However, if you think innocent lives arent being taken in Iraq then your mistaken. Its war, and lives ARE taken.
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"Canada had to deal with the same thing during Somalia. And as you can see from that link officers in our military were punished for it. Also take note that out of the 100 or so incidents listed theres like 5-6 that have to do with murder or torture and more were aquitted. The majority of crimes there consist of the illegal or accidental discharge of a weapon. Accidents happen."
hehehe that's a lot of accidents. Translation: "firing without order to do so but not hitting your target". I'm ok with it, war is war. You know as well as I do that the torture murder thing was MUCH bigger than that report is making it out to be. Yes officers were punished, and don't worry, people will be punished here as well. I just don't recall any Americans saying BOO CANADA when that all happened.
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My intent isnt to say BOO USA now either. It just seems like most of the people in this thread are trying to defend the actions of the US soldiers because other people have also made similar mistakes. If thats the case then obviously their mindset is shared by those who ARENT at war aswell, right? Hence the US generalization.
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"I cant wait to see that list with all the war crimes the US committed during this war. If you want to compare lists afterwards then be my guest."
Oh so when "your guys" do it, it's just "THOSE GUYS", but when people from the US do it it's "THE US". I'm sensing some feelings of superiorty from the North again...
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My statements honestly are not meant to portray any form of superiority. I've lived in BOTH countries and up until recently considered myself citizens of both countries. That only ended months ago.
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"90% of you are on here bitching about Bush and the decisions he makes while running your country, but then show up saying how superior your country is to everyone else in a later thread. Make up your mind."
I'm not bitching about Bush and I'll admit I've voted for both of them. Every President / leader makes mistakes and nearly always almost 50% of the people will not like what one does. That's a fact of life.
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Absolutely. Obviously in a country as large as the US theres no way EVERYONE is going to agree on one leader or how the country should be run. Thats why the majority rules.
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So go ahead and blame him for 911, the alleged WMD "scam" whatever else you want... the truth is that if Clinton hadn't cut so much funding out of the defense budget when he was getting his knob sucked by that fat skank in the cheap dress, we would have had enough operatives gathering intelligence over there that 911 probably wouldn't have happened.
I don't remember anyone saying we were more superior than anybody just that Canada wasn't either. And THAT was the point of this thread.
When placed in a bowl of shit, people will do shitty things.
Even if they are Canadian. [/B]
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I wasnt specifically referring to any one persons comments, just the general direction of the thread. Canadians do stupid shit too. It just seems like more US citizens are trying to defend the actions of their soldiers abroad as "just being war" and when Canada was in this situation years and years ago I seem to remember the country and its citizens being MORE apologetic. Thats not to say that there arent a huge number of americans that are ashamed and apologetic of their soldiers actions, its just how it looks to me. Especially when I read threads like this.