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-=HUNGRYMAN=- · 08-06-2001, 11:57 PM

ok .... here is my update ... LOL

and I will go on the record as 100 % UNBIASED to Richard, Wolfshade, or Tam (how can you not love a girl with nipples that should be registered as concealed weapons?)

We have, I think, established the fact that the dialer that Tam uses is NOT ICSTIS compliant ... even the dialer owner blatently admits that ...

Now we have to move on to the next issue here... is ICSTIS a government appointed agency ... or are they somebody who decided to earn "good samaritan" points by trying to play God with the dialer owners ??

I am neither FOR or AGAINST the use of dialers ... Have I used them on my sites ? Yes. I believe that the CAVEAT EMPTOR responsabilities fall upon the end user (the surfer) ... If you do not see rates per minute, or active clock or whatever ... very good chances that you will be paying more than you wish to ...

We are webmasters ... not babysitters !!
Yes there are a few people operating dialers that are just OUTRIGHT IMMORAL ... (and I beleive they all know who they are, without me having to haze them ...), but it is NOT my responsability when a surfer gets his $300 (or 500 or even more) phone bill when he visited my site 'X' number of times over the past month ... the little bastard should have just paid $30 for a membership ... or if he has no credit card ... he should have learned the first time ... to be a more concious consumer ... anything you purchase "on time", be it a sex site membership or twenty ... dialer minutes ... or even a fucking pair of new shoes for that matter ... know the price of what you are buying, and realize that the "payment fairy" will not take care of it for you ...you WILL eventually have to pay for it ...

It is not MY fault that Joe Surfer was thinking with the wrong head when he logged onto my dialer ... 'I WAS HORNY' is no more an excuse than 'I WAS DRUNK' is to somebody trying to explain why they killed the cute little 4 year old girl who lives next door to them !!!

If you make the concious decision to have 6 Martinis during a business lunch, then YES, you deserve to rot in jail when you kill somebody ... likewise, if you make the concious decision to use whatever dialer to access your porn, you are responsible for the phone bill that results !!

YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS !!! Not ME, nor TAM, nor anybody else for that matter ! I am SICK AND FUCKING TIRED of all the whining about who is using what dialer.

My grandfather once told me ... if you have to ASK the price, you probably cannot afford it. I guess this is why Fords have the sticker price attached to the passenger window ... Has anybody ever seen the sticker price on the window of a FERRARI ??? Nuff said.

BTW ... the dialers I use are very "up front" about their charges ... but that was MY CHOICE ...

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A boneprone Family Member

[This message has been edited by -=HUNGRYMAN=- (edited 08-06-2001).]

08-06-2001, 11:57 PM
-=HUNGRYMAN=- Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Between your mamma's legs Posts: 4,753	ok .... here is my update ... LOL and I will go on the record as 100 % UNBIASED to Richard, Wolfshade, or Tam (how can you not love a girl with nipples that should be registered as concealed weapons?) We have, I think, established the fact that the dialer that Tam uses is NOT ICSTIS compliant ... even the dialer owner blatently admits that ... Now we have to move on to the next issue here... is ICSTIS a government appointed agency ... or are they somebody who decided to earn "good samaritan" points by trying to play God with the dialer owners ?? I am neither FOR or AGAINST the use of dialers ... Have I used them on my sites ? Yes. I believe that the CAVEAT EMPTOR responsabilities fall upon the end user (the surfer) ... If you do not see rates per minute, or active clock or whatever ... very good chances that you will be paying more than you wish to ... We are webmasters ... not babysitters !! Yes there are a few people operating dialers that are just OUTRIGHT IMMORAL ... (and I beleive they all know who they are, without me having to haze them ...), but it is NOT my responsability when a surfer gets his $300 (or 500 or even more) phone bill when he visited my site 'X' number of times over the past month ... the little bastard should have just paid $30 for a membership ... or if he has no credit card ... he should have learned the first time ... to be a more concious consumer ... anything you purchase "on time", be it a sex site membership or twenty ... dialer minutes ... or even a fucking pair of new shoes for that matter ... know the price of what you are buying, and realize that the "payment fairy" will not take care of it for you ...you WILL eventually have to pay for it ... It is not MY fault that Joe Surfer was thinking with the wrong head when he logged onto my dialer ... 'I WAS HORNY' is no more an excuse than 'I WAS DRUNK' is to somebody trying to explain why they killed the cute little 4 year old girl who lives next door to them !!! If you make the concious decision to have 6 Martinis during a business lunch, then YES, you deserve to rot in jail when you kill somebody ... likewise, if you make the concious decision to use whatever dialer to access your porn, you are responsible for the phone bill that results !! YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS !!! Not ME, nor TAM, nor anybody else for that matter ! I am SICK AND FUCKING TIRED of all the whining about who is using what dialer. My grandfather once told me ... if you have to ASK the price, you probably cannot afford it. I guess this is why Fords have the sticker price attached to the passenger window ... Has anybody ever seen the sticker price on the window of a FERRARI ??? Nuff said. BTW ... the dialers I use are very "up front" about their charges ... but that was MY CHOICE ... ------------------ A boneprone Family Member [This message has been edited by -=HUNGRYMAN=- (edited 08-06-2001).]