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Originally posted by Webby
piker:
OK.. Yes, there is no doubt that this Administration has lied (whether that be "actual" lying or base deception.) This has been so extensive to damage the credibility of the US Admin - not exactly a good thing.
The current Admin have clearly had many reasons to lie - they even lied to the people they "supposed" to be "serving" (Remember that word!). They did a massive lying operation - some call it "propaganda" over Iraq - and continue to do this daily.
I agree.. Bush had a good "ranking" after 9/11 - that is normal under these kinds of circumstances - it's the "pulling together" thing. Cast your mind back to pre 9/11 - the status of the Presidency "ranking" was poor and declining simply because this thing was, to all intents, "inactive" as a President. It is only since 9/11 the Admin clutched on and shrouded themselves with the "war President" image that gave Bush his.. well.. in my opinion, his only chance in hell of staying remotely near the Whitehouse.
The US also had enormous support worldwide after 9/11. In part, because of the silly mouth and rhetoric, the lack of credibility, the inability or desire of this Admin to work with the international community and the apparent disregard in complying with basic international laws, have dwindled the support the US Admin "could" have had. This is just another massive failure on the part of this Admin. Most countries I suspect, would like to work with the US, but find it unwise to do so with this current President.
All this supercedes *any* political stuff. The standards of "decency" in politics are non-existant. It also does not matter that Bush is a republican or communist. It is damned sad that this Administration has caused, not only deaths or many thousands, both US citizens and other abroad, but has effectively failed in so many other areas (this too much to hahahahaha here!) - but check the economy for a start.
Everyone makes mistakes - any leader is equally able to make mistakes, for whatever reason. I sure would not "bash" anyone who fucked up on occasion - it ain't a easy job. The problem here is how can *anyone* consistantly do this and have the arrogance to lie and never admit to any? That alone is a clue :-)
Bush must be the worst US President ever... No.. take that back, he is not just the worst US President, but the worst leader in the western world since the downfall of Hitler.
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Ok, I read all this and fail to see any evidence of the adminstration lying. I even see you speak of the economy which for all accounts is back on track and growing. We are still dealing with an overvalued dollar and therefore losing manufactoring jobs but thats dropping and the manufactoring jobs will be coming back.
You even claim the adminstration has caused deaths. I'd like to see some evidence or the thought process behind that view.
I mean to summarize that post I could just say you think the adminstration is to blame for all the countries problems maybe even some of yours and therefore you hate them.