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Originally posted by bhutocracy
You know.. I didn't really have that much of a different view to you before the war, but in everything that has happened afterwards i've had to re-evaluate my position.
we are both fairly pragmatic in that we do acknowledge it was a strategic grab for resources and locale. However, I honestly now do not think Iraq will ever be a shining example of a democratic republic. The US knows this which is why the Iraqi's aren't going to be allowed to hold elections, the governing council are a bunch of ex iraqi's and Saddam oppositionists who fed us total bullshit about their WMD, and we were only to eager to lap it up. And now they're being forced onto Iraq by America.. If they had the right to vote right now it would become an islamic state under majority shiite rule and basically an Iran clone, who are currently supporting the guerilla resistance financially and militarily.
I know it's for our benefit, but they way in which we are trying to achieve it doesn't ensure we are actually coming out at an advantage, at this point in time i'm not even sure it's a good thing that Saddam is gone, at least he crushed the islamic fundies with an iron fist. As long as he kept Iraq oil currency as US dollars and was contained he's probably a bigger asset then the current situation is shaping up to be.
personally for me it's looking like I would have rathered spend 80 billion on giving the CIA and NSA some serious kahoonas and quadrupling the intelligence community/muslim informant network.
I'd like to know whats being done about the actual and real threats to us from saudi arabia and pakistan as opposed to strategic aquisitions.
related to picking and choosing laws, yes I will choose to disobey a law I find immoral/useless/politically-religiously motivated/whatever and I don't give a flying fuck what anyone could possibly think about that decision.
Politicians are the most corrupt bunch of self serving leeches this side of the police force. I probably cannot express to you the total lack of hesitation in breaking and utter contempt I would feel for such a law.
I never speed, never drink drive, never cause any sort of disturbance, but when it comes to freedom of choice, unless my freedom is being threatened by someone other than the government I will not comply.
In this situation I would rather join the intelligence services to do some actual good rather than gambling in Iraq.
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I suspect that you are correct about the type of government the majority would vote for if given the opportunity at this point in time...but we hope to change that view point. We do not have any intentions of allowing free elections being held with a "theocratic" option.
If you recall I said from the very beginning that to defeat the Iraqi Army would be a cake walk (I predicted 10 days and it took...what was it 21 or 24) and to "win the peace" ie establish a stable Democratic Republic would probably take years if not decades. I also questioned if we would be sucessful as my primary concern was/is the people of the US supporting such a long term goal. This is still a point of debate but for the present the people are still supporting the mission..but as time drags on and if casualties increase to large numbers (the casualty rates are insignificant at this point) the support will undoubtedly change. In the meantime I think the effort is laudible and I hope that the mission succeeds.
I to am a law abiding citizen...but I am aware that there are some laws that I will not abide by...if push comes to shove. An example would be...if anyone breaks into my home while I am present...I will hahahahahahaha them...and discover later if they were actually a threat to my well being...or not. The law in California was that you could only use deadly force if confronted by deadly force. I have relocated and do not know what the law is in the current state I live in...and I do not care...as I know what my response will be. There are other laws that I would knowingly and with fore thought...break given a circumstance or circumstances. I am also aware what the consequences are that I may have to pay for my action.