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Old 04-09-2004, 08:13 AM  
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This whole theory that anyone can just get a job at McDonald's is flawed.

How many people here actually have employees?

How many people here have had to do hiring for companies? In large numbers?

Are you hiring skilled people or just laborers?

How many of you are still young? Or under 50?

These are all valid questions when you consider some of the job factors.

The mindset of business has greatly changed over the last 20+ years.

My grandfather's generation went to work at companies and spent 25-30 years there before retiring with them.

As a kid my father's generation spoke of that importance as well. But before my father's generation could retire companies started to find it was cheaper to hire kids straight out of college and pay them half to do the jobs that men/women who had been there for 15-20 years were doing.

It was also cheaper to buy them out instead of letting them retire with the company.

This left a group of people who were too qualified.

This now carries over into that group of people with degrees but who are afriad to do service jobs as someone pointed ot above..and the hiring practices of companies.

As a manager of Taco Bell for 7 years I can assure you, you would not want a college graduate working your drive thru, or your register.

Why?

It all boils down to lowering turnover rates.

This is a person who will not be happy with his or her job so why spend the time to train them when you could easily find some 16 year old to do the job so they can go out and buy the latest Eminem CD?

When hiring for lower skilled jobs especially in places like fast food jobs your best prospects for long term employees are:

1. High School Graduates especially those with GEDs.
Those with GEDs have already shown they are willing to work hard to accomplish something.

2. Mothers with children. Mothers with children will work hard, and show up for work because they need to feed their kids.
Fathers were just not as good, most of them were not true fathers to begin with, just some "baby's daddy" who didn't even pay child support.

I also have an Uncle who was in human resources for many years in both the medical field and the oil industry and once again as a kid he always preached long term with companies, but as I grew older and over the past 20 years that has changed and he now talks about constant change but never settling for less than at least lateral movement.

He would also tell you that while degrees are important along with age that could cost a company much more money, so once again they'd rather hire the kid out of college who will take less than the guy in his 40's who already has 10+ years experience in the field but would ask for more money.

There are so many factors in why people are unemployed and there are far too many intelligent people in this thread to assume it all boils down to one reason.."laziness."
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