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Chris R · 07-09-2001, 09:35 PM

I am guessing what he paid, based on what I know some sites cost. His back end is pretty nice - (no smart ass comments). If you can make a website like that for $20,000 - you would be able to get tons of customers. I would not be suprised at all if he paid over 100 grand. I know people that would charge that much - and more.

I know a big company that just paid $250,000 for their shopping cart, and guess what - it doesn't work in anything but internet explorer - why, because the designers never tested it in netscape or anything else.

The vast majority of people doing programming of this nature do not understand business and vice versa. It is not only that company, but several others, including some big ones - that have shopping carts that do not work correctly a large percentage of time. People that design websites, for the most part are intelligent people. Unfortunately - they design it with themselves in mind.

Many people have problems using websites. Why do you think terms like "hotmail", "ebay" and "yahoo" are in the top 20 searched for terms. People do not understand where to type in urls.

A large percentage of ecommerce is from AOL users - one survey (granted it was an AOL one - say 38%). How many web designers test their site in AOL? How many know how it looks when AOL pops up? Have any complex Java Script - if it causes one single freaking error - it comes up with a popup in AOL. Pop behinds - they don't work in AOL. I told a sponsor for a dating site about this, they had no clue, but were nice enough to fix it for me.

Getting everything to work together smoothly is not easy or cheap. I can't say for sure his does, but it appears very well designed to me. I did not look into it in depth, but it was my first impression upon looking at the site. I was impressed, and most websites out there do not impress me.

His affiliate program alone - tons of people would charge 10k - 20k just for that.

I am not saying they should, but they do - and as someone who has consulted with a company that charges much more than that for sites - I can tell you he would have gotten a steal at 20k. It is just not worth the time of most companies to put together proposals for less than 10k.

The company I worked with - they started out small, but it became just as much work to put together small proposals as it did big ones.

I only worked on the side for them, but I know what they bid for certain projects and know what other people bid on those projects. My guess is - if you picked design firms that could handle that kind of stuff - he would be getting bids between 100 - 250k.

And half the time - they wouldn't work right after shelling out that much.

07-09-2001, 09:35 PM
Chris R Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Posts: 1,151	I am guessing what he paid, based on what I know some sites cost. His back end is pretty nice - (no smart ass comments). If you can make a website like that for $20,000 - you would be able to get tons of customers. I would not be suprised at all if he paid over 100 grand. I know people that would charge that much - and more. I know a big company that just paid $250,000 for their shopping cart, and guess what - it doesn't work in anything but internet explorer - why, because the designers never tested it in netscape or anything else. The vast majority of people doing programming of this nature do not understand business and vice versa. It is not only that company, but several others, including some big ones - that have shopping carts that do not work correctly a large percentage of time. People that design websites, for the most part are intelligent people. Unfortunately - they design it with themselves in mind. Many people have problems using websites. Why do you think terms like "hotmail", "ebay" and "yahoo" are in the top 20 searched for terms. People do not understand where to type in urls. A large percentage of ecommerce is from AOL users - one survey (granted it was an AOL one - say 38%). How many web designers test their site in AOL? How many know how it looks when AOL pops up? Have any complex Java Script - if it causes one single freaking error - it comes up with a popup in AOL. Pop behinds - they don't work in AOL. I told a sponsor for a dating site about this, they had no clue, but were nice enough to fix it for me. Getting everything to work together smoothly is not easy or cheap. I can't say for sure his does, but it appears very well designed to me. I did not look into it in depth, but it was my first impression upon looking at the site. I was impressed, and most websites out there do not impress me. His affiliate program alone - tons of people would charge 10k - 20k just for that. I am not saying they should, but they do - and as someone who has consulted with a company that charges much more than that for sites - I can tell you he would have gotten a steal at 20k. It is just not worth the time of most companies to put together proposals for less than 10k. The company I worked with - they started out small, but it became just as much work to put together small proposals as it did big ones. I only worked on the side for them, but I know what they bid for certain projects and know what other people bid on those projects. My guess is - if you picked design firms that could handle that kind of stuff - he would be getting bids between 100 - 250k. And half the time - they wouldn't work right after shelling out that much.