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Slick · 02-11-2001, 09:12 AM

WOW Much0S, I'm sorry, but I have to comment on your message. I think that you're missing some points when you talk about dedicated hosting.

The first thing is that MOST dedicated servers are setup on some sort of a burst, so if bandwidth does soar up, sites would never slow down. That's never a worry for me. Pretty much with virual accounts, you're just buying an account on a dedicated server, so you're pretty much STILL on a dedicated server right, but you're just sharing everything with a bunch of other people.

Then you mention maitinence. I've got my server through Mesanet and I NEVER had to pay them a penny extra for work on the thing, nor have I had to do anything myself. They do all of the work. That's how pretty much what every dedicated host will do for you. You make it sound like when you get a dedicated server, you have all of this extra work to do with it. I can't even tell a difference with my dedicated server, I just FTP into my account and that's it. They worry about the hackers and everything else, not me.

Next point is that you talk about the prices of dedicated hosts. Well if you look at Dynamic Hosting's prices, you'll see that for $575 per month, you can get 300 gigs per month and 9 gigs of storage. Well even if you forget the storage and look at the bandwidth, that's still a cheaper price than IEP. I looked at your site and I know that Tim says that all prices are negotiable, but on your site, with 25 megs of storage and 300 gigs per month, your price is $802 PER MONTH, that's $227 MORE per month with only 25 megs of storage. That's quite a difference. Why not post reasonable prices on your site that are real then rather than posting really high prices, that's not gonna get people to wanna join up with you.

Ok, one other point that I have about dedicated servers is the fact that that you can pretty much add as many domains as you want to your server. I could put 50 domains on my server if I wanted to. Also, if I wanna build a new site, I can just register it and get it setup on my dedicated server and just build it up, only paying for the bandwidth that it burns rather than me going out and getting a virtual account with it. ALSO, since it is on a dedicated server, I can take my time with it, since I'm not paying extra for it, I can take 3 months to get it going if I wanted to and I wouldn't waste any money paying the monthly virtual account fees for it.

Ok, I guesss that you've got me on the point about the year contract for the dedicated server, that is one bad point about having a dedicated server, the year contract, BUT it all goes back to what do you need and how big are you. If you're gonna move your first site or two over from free acounts to domain, then it WOULDN'T be good to go with dedicated. If you have a FEW sites running that are established and you plan on being around for a while, then I'd consider dedicated. One other point is to CHECKOUT a server host before you do anything. Run some pings and trace routes on the server and ask around for recommendations, NEVER just jump into a server without hearing feedback from them first of all because like Tim says, you don't wanna get roped into a contract with a slow host.

I'm sorry for rambling on. Tim, I'm not trying to start anything with you, he he. I'm just trying to argue my point here, so don't take any of this as a fight against you because it's not. I'm just putting in my 2 cents on defending dedicated servers, he he.

Well, that's all that I have for now. I'm all typed out, he he he. What do some other people think about this subject ???

Slick

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02-11-2001, 09:12 AM
Slick Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houghton, MI Posts: 7,338	WOW Much0S, I'm sorry, but I have to comment on your message. I think that you're missing some points when you talk about dedicated hosting. The first thing is that MOST dedicated servers are setup on some sort of a burst, so if bandwidth does soar up, sites would never slow down. That's never a worry for me. Pretty much with virual accounts, you're just buying an account on a dedicated server, so you're pretty much STILL on a dedicated server right, but you're just sharing everything with a bunch of other people. Then you mention maitinence. I've got my server through Mesanet and I NEVER had to pay them a penny extra for work on the thing, nor have I had to do anything myself. They do all of the work. That's how pretty much what every dedicated host will do for you. You make it sound like when you get a dedicated server, you have all of this extra work to do with it. I can't even tell a difference with my dedicated server, I just FTP into my account and that's it. They worry about the hackers and everything else, not me. Next point is that you talk about the prices of dedicated hosts. Well if you look at Dynamic Hosting's prices, you'll see that for $575 per month, you can get 300 gigs per month and 9 gigs of storage. Well even if you forget the storage and look at the bandwidth, that's still a cheaper price than IEP. I looked at your site and I know that Tim says that all prices are negotiable, but on your site, with 25 megs of storage and 300 gigs per month, your price is $802 PER MONTH, that's $227 MORE per month with only 25 megs of storage. That's quite a difference. Why not post reasonable prices on your site that are real then rather than posting really high prices, that's not gonna get people to wanna join up with you. Ok, one other point that I have about dedicated servers is the fact that that you can pretty much add as many domains as you want to your server. I could put 50 domains on my server if I wanted to. Also, if I wanna build a new site, I can just register it and get it setup on my dedicated server and just build it up, only paying for the bandwidth that it burns rather than me going out and getting a virtual account with it. ALSO, since it is on a dedicated server, I can take my time with it, since I'm not paying extra for it, I can take 3 months to get it going if I wanted to and I wouldn't waste any money paying the monthly virtual account fees for it. Ok, I guesss that you've got me on the point about the year contract for the dedicated server, that is one bad point about having a dedicated server, the year contract, BUT it all goes back to what do you need and how big are you. If you're gonna move your first site or two over from free acounts to domain, then it WOULDN'T be good to go with dedicated. If you have a FEW sites running that are established and you plan on being around for a while, then I'd consider dedicated. One other point is to CHECKOUT a server host before you do anything. Run some pings and trace routes on the server and ask around for recommendations, NEVER just jump into a server without hearing feedback from them first of all because like Tim says, you don't wanna get roped into a contract with a slow host. I'm sorry for rambling on. Tim, I'm not trying to start anything with you, he he. I'm just trying to argue my point here, so don't take any of this as a fight against you because it's not. I'm just putting in my 2 cents on defending dedicated servers, he he. Well, that's all that I have for now. I'm all typed out, he he he. What do some other people think about this subject ??? Slick [This message has been edited by Slick (edited 02-11-2001).] [This message has been edited by Slick (edited 02-11-2001).]