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LAJ · 06-11-2001, 11:19 PM

Allright, my $.02 for anybody who gives a shit.

1st off, I want to clarify that I agree almost exactly with MuchOS on his posts.

I will also say that I am not at all religious and have never been a relative or friend of a victim of such a horrible crime, like the bombing.

That being said, it could be argued that "if it was your kid that got killed/raped/assaulted, etc... you would want to see the guy killed yadda, yadda, yadda..." Well sure, we all have fantasized about good old fashioned revenge, street justice, and the desire to fuck someone up to get even.

But laws are in place to protect the innocent, and the death penalty is not the answer. I have always been a strong supporter of the death penalty... until today.

Sure the shitbag is dead now, but what did it solve? No he won't commit another crime, and everyone can crap on about "closure" and "justice" being served. My fucking ass! There will never be closure because the dead can't be brought back. And this was vengeance pure and simple. Too many Americans "needed" McVeigh dead.

Well guess what! The fucker didn't act alone! And he didn't act with two or three others either. This was a well planned out attack folks. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but fuck an A, the mob killed Kennedy almost 40 years ago, and the bottom man was the only person who REALLY answered for it. Same situation here. A LOT of dirty hands in this one. McVeigh took the fall for countless people I'm sure. Maybe many weren't involved, but many sure knew about it. Then there was that "blunder" with the FBI last month... hmmm....

Killing McVeigh wasn't the answer. He died a martyr. All he probably had to do was plea bargain a life sentence by turning in some names... some of which were no doubt government officials. But he probably wasn't given this option. The stupid public wanted a quick fix -- and six years is very quick -- to try to put closure on this. McVeigh would have done a Jimmy Hoffa if he opened his mouth. This way he dies peacefully, and without fear of being hunted, and a hero to "his kind."

Additionally look at states with the death penalty... hmmm Texas is putting them away like nobody's business, and guess which state has one of the highest crime rates per capita??? Yup. The death penalty is NOT a deterrent for crime. Never has been, never will be. Look at Australia. Nobody has guns, there is no death penalty, and guess what... their crime rate per capita is miniscule compared to the USA.

Don't get me wrong. I fucking love the USA. I've been to enough foreign countries to appreciate that I live in the best damn place in the world, but there are major problems here... and a lot of them lie within the way people think.

The justice system exists the way it does to protect the innocent. Innocent people get killed all the time... on the streets, and in the death chambers. Tis better to let 10 guilty men free than to kill 1 innocent man. And no, I am not saying that McVeigh is innocent here. He was guilty as fuck.

And lastly... don't kid yourself about the death sentence being cheaper than a life sentence. That shit is laughable! Do you have any idea how much money it costs to put this shit through the courts, and all of the appeals, and the lawyers and court fees, etc. I don't either, but it is TONS more than housing the scumbag in a concrete cell for 50 years with no way out, and the other inmates to deal with.

Whew... I'm tired!

LAJ
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06-11-2001, 11:19 PM
LAJ Gingerific Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Austin Posts: 5,567	Allright, my $.02 for anybody who gives a shit. 1st off, I want to clarify that I agree almost exactly with MuchOS on his posts. I will also say that I am not at all religious and have never been a relative or friend of a victim of such a horrible crime, like the bombing. That being said, it could be argued that "if it was your kid that got killed/raped/assaulted, etc... you would want to see the guy killed yadda, yadda, yadda..." Well sure, we all have fantasized about good old fashioned revenge, street justice, and the desire to fuck someone up to get even. But laws are in place to protect the innocent, and the death penalty is not the answer. I have always been a strong supporter of the death penalty... until today. Sure the shitbag is dead now, but what did it solve? No he won't commit another crime, and everyone can crap on about "closure" and "justice" being served. My fucking ass! There will never be closure because the dead can't be brought back. And this was vengeance pure and simple. Too many Americans "needed" McVeigh dead. Well guess what! The fucker didn't act alone! And he didn't act with two or three others either. This was a well planned out attack folks. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but fuck an A, the mob killed Kennedy almost 40 years ago, and the bottom man was the only person who REALLY answered for it. Same situation here. A LOT of dirty hands in this one. McVeigh took the fall for countless people I'm sure. Maybe many weren't involved, but many sure knew about it. Then there was that "blunder" with the FBI last month... hmmm.... Killing McVeigh wasn't the answer. He died a martyr. All he probably had to do was plea bargain a life sentence by turning in some names... some of which were no doubt government officials. But he probably wasn't given this option. The stupid public wanted a quick fix -- and six years is very quick -- to try to put closure on this. McVeigh would have done a Jimmy Hoffa if he opened his mouth. This way he dies peacefully, and without fear of being hunted, and a hero to "his kind." Additionally look at states with the death penalty... hmmm Texas is putting them away like nobody's business, and guess which state has one of the highest crime rates per capita??? Yup. The death penalty is NOT a deterrent for crime. Never has been, never will be. Look at Australia. Nobody has guns, there is no death penalty, and guess what... their crime rate per capita is miniscule compared to the USA. Don't get me wrong. I fucking love the USA. I've been to enough foreign countries to appreciate that I live in the best damn place in the world, but there are major problems here... and a lot of them lie within the way people think. The justice system exists the way it does to protect the innocent. Innocent people get killed all the time... on the streets, and in the death chambers. Tis better to let 10 guilty men free than to kill 1 innocent man. And no, I am not saying that McVeigh is innocent here. He was guilty as fuck. And lastly... don't kid yourself about the death sentence being cheaper than a life sentence. That shit is laughable! Do you have any idea how much money it costs to put this shit through the courts, and all of the appeals, and the lawyers and court fees, etc. I don't either, but it is TONS more than housing the scumbag in a concrete cell for 50 years with no way out, and the other inmates to deal with. Whew... I'm tired! LAJ YNOT Network http://www.ynotmasters.com [This message has been edited by LAJ (edited 06-11-2001).] [This message has been edited by LAJ (edited 06-11-2001).] [This message has been edited by LAJ (edited 06-11-2001).]