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boneprone · 05-10-2001, 02:44 PM

AVS is a joke. You are just making them $$. Why waste your time markeitng something that only gets you like a dollar everytime someone whips out there creditard, when you can make anywhere from 30.00-40.00 bucks pushing them towards a pay site. Or better yet pish the surefer to a recurring program site like Amateur Pages with good retention rates..

as for tgps or gallery makers using the good quality images, more power to em.. there is too much crap out there, and when these people get cut out of the $$ loop maybe things will clean up.. For me I pay 2500.00 every 4 months for good paysite quality photos to use and present to people for free.. Why? Because it creates a demand and makes me better than my competition, and people come back for more.. I know for a fact someone would rather see, and be more likely to whip out their credit card after seeing and being teased by my quality photos, rather than whipping out their card off a bombardment of pop-up windows or shitty designed cj sites. I market my satisfied customers off my free site to the qulity paysites like Amateur Pages, Top Cash, and who ever I choose.

My sign up ratios are better than most people I know, sending sites like amateur pages last month and the month before over 100 signups per month on a 1:400 ratio.

So you see in this situation everyone wins.. I win, Amateur Pages wins, and the surfer wins because he never had to mees with crap and popups and the jerking around most of you put your surfers though.

Right now the market is in a unique stage. We have a saturation of webmasters and sites most of which are pure crap. Its a matter of time before the market filters out these people as more and more quality webmasters and programs come upon us to take the market share and the profits. I dont intend to be one of the shit sites filtered out of this, and will contiune to present for free the images I pay a lot for that are sometimes better than many paysites. It is what makes me valuable to the people who pay me.

And for those of you who think that real contant providers dont like to see their produckt on free sites and only pay sites, thats pure bullshit. And it only hurts the low quality payisites when people like me present quality paysite photos for free... You see a good quailty paysite doenst have just photos, they have live feeds, super high resolution photos, and movies.. These are things large free sites could never provide because of bandwith cost. I already pay 5k a month on bandwith on just photos.. If I were to add movies and feeds, it would cut out my profitability and would not be feasable.

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05-10-2001, 02:44 PM
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	AVS is a joke. You are just making them $$. Why waste your time markeitng something that only gets you like a dollar everytime someone whips out there creditard, when you can make anywhere from 30.00-40.00 bucks pushing them towards a pay site. Or better yet pish the surefer to a recurring program site like Amateur Pages with good retention rates.. as for tgps or gallery makers using the good quality images, more power to em.. there is too much crap out there, and when these people get cut out of the $$ loop maybe things will clean up.. For me I pay 2500.00 every 4 months for good paysite quality photos to use and present to people for free.. Why? Because it creates a demand and makes me better than my competition, and people come back for more.. I know for a fact someone would rather see, and be more likely to whip out their credit card after seeing and being teased by my quality photos, rather than whipping out their card off a bombardment of pop-up windows or shitty designed cj sites. I market my satisfied customers off my free site to the qulity paysites like Amateur Pages, Top Cash, and who ever I choose. My sign up ratios are better than most people I know, sending sites like amateur pages last month and the month before over 100 signups per month on a 1:400 ratio. So you see in this situation everyone wins.. I win, Amateur Pages wins, and the surfer wins because he never had to mees with crap and popups and the jerking around most of you put your surfers though. Right now the market is in a unique stage. We have a saturation of webmasters and sites most of which are pure crap. Its a matter of time before the market filters out these people as more and more quality webmasters and programs come upon us to take the market share and the profits. I dont intend to be one of the shit sites filtered out of this, and will contiune to present for free the images I pay a lot for that are sometimes better than many paysites. It is what makes me valuable to the people who pay me. And for those of you who think that real contant providers dont like to see their produckt on free sites and only pay sites, thats pure bullshit. And it only hurts the low quality payisites when people like me present quality paysite photos for free... You see a good quailty paysite doenst have just photos, they have live feeds, super high resolution photos, and movies.. These are things large free sites could never provide because of bandwith cost. I already pay 5k a month on bandwith on just photos.. If I were to add movies and feeds, it would cut out my profitability and would not be feasable. [This message has been edited by boneprone (edited 05-10-2001).]