These are the pants you are talking about and they are he best jeans I have ever bought !
I will be wearing them at Webmaster Access this week in Cancun if anyone wants to see them in person.
I am telling you the truth that girls know what is hot and what is not ! I am not kidding when I tell you that girls will come up and try to pick you up if you are wearing these jeans or anything else with Von Dutch printed on it.
They are comfortable and wear well.