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Originally posted by Lensman:
I don't have time to read this whole thread, but I can vouch for 12clicks. If you don't pull any shit and stick with the spirit of his programs, you'll be paid. Always.
I can also agree with 12clicks that a bunch of people either cheat, try shortcuts, or simply ignore rules. It's a bitch, but it's true.
Jimmy, 12clicks is not a racist. He's part black himself. And he's not homophobic either, because he's... we'll I'll let him tell you himself about that one.
And for you guys that don't like the way he talks, remember - he's in New Jersey. Just watch a few episodes of the Sopranos and you'll realize that's normal over there.
Besides, you guys are bitching about the way someone talks at a place called "gofuckyourself.com"?
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Everyone:
It is a common fallacy for people to believe those with 'power' such as Lensman. They believe what they say to be the truth at all times. This is not always the case. Lensman isn't God, so we know this cannot always be the case. Do as a jury would do, and take the facts as they have been presented here. I wish Lensman would do the same, but he has no time to read (probably because my posts are 10 pages long).
Lensman:
Of course people cheat. I caught a big one for you the other day. (I reported him to you through another company of mine that does not deal with you, to remain anonymous. I do not wish to stir shit up unnecessarily. Remember, I saved a screen shot of the javascript pop-up window that he used as a way to cheat?) Why don't you tell 12clicks that I dislike the bastards as much as he does. Those of you (actually just one of you in particular) who think I support cheaters must have their heads shoved up their ass. I catch cheaters all the time. I report them all. I enjoy doing this. I receive no benefits from the sponsors in doing so.
Everyone:
The issue here is not about how to deal with cheaters. It's how to deal with people. People who just
may be honest. Mistakes happen. The overwhelming evidence that has come from both sides state that a mistake was made. 12clicks wrongly bitched out a legit affiliate, and proved himself that he made no effort in the justification of his actions. Need I quote the email that proves this once more? (Yes, I will, because I will probably get wrongly dissed if it appears that I am offering only an opinion without proof.) The email is question is this:
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I've been to your sites. You shit freezes my Mac and you've disabled right clicking on my pc. I have no interest in looking any further. I'm sure XXXXX was right in his/her decision.
XXXXX"
These are facts people.
Funny how no one is responding to the facts.
Opinions do not mean anything when there is enough facts to prove a point beyond a reasonable doubt.
Lensman:
I swear all the time. It doesn't bother me. To have a sponsor accuse a legit affiliate of cheating bothers me. To have this sponsor calling people names on this board whom he has never dealt with before
is utterly ridiculous.
Please reconsider who you are vouching for.
To Lens, and other major sponsors:
I know that there is no other major sponsor on this board (or elsewhere) that has the balls to back up 12clicks
under the terms of stating that they believe the posts made by 12clicks are justified. How do you justify the bitching out of people who say nothing more except that his posts are very unprofessional. Look on this thread for proof of this before you reply.
If you do believe that they are justified, then tell us. Enlighten us. We await. I really, really would like an answer to this.
If anyone out there does not believe the way he handles business is respectable, let it be known. Remove his links. Tell your affiliates to do the same. Name calling does not accomplish a thing. Let it be known that this is not acceptable.
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[This message has been edited by Juge (edited 04-07-2001).]