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Old 04-05-2001, 08:57 PM  
Juge
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This is the stupidiest thread I have ever read. Someone is inquiring about a problem with a sponsor, and the sponsor is not listening to what is being written and is quite frankly acting like a little childish kid. Are you people actually reading the posts? Or do you reply before you finish? Are you capable of putting 2 and 2 together? I cannot believe such childish uninformative repsonses are resulting from such a SIMPLE FUCKING problem, and it's pissing me off enough that I am going to reply:

Let me restate this very simple problem as I see it:

1. Mojosearch stated at one time in the past:
"You may not open the MojoSearch URL in a new browser window, unless your site is built with frames. If that's the case you must open MojoSearch.com in a new fullsized window. Also, you may not open our links inside of frames, ever."

This doesn't require explanation, but since people on this thread cannot read properly, I will explain: This quote requires any site with frames to pop up the search results in a new window.

2. HQ follows direct orders, and pops up the search in a new window.

3. HQ asks for help, and mojosearch states that HQ's code is correct.

4. HQ continues use of the program as stated.

5. No forms/emails/notificiations are sent that a rule change happened, therefore HQ keeps using the program as is.

6. Mojosearch doesn't pay HQ.

7. HQ asks why. They tell him that he is breaking the rules. He tells them he is not. They send emails back and forth. Some of them from mojosearch are very bitching and childish, such as:

"I've been to your sites. You shit freezes my Mac and you've disabled right clicking on my pc. I have no interest in looking any further. I'm sure XXXXX was right in his/her decision.
XXXXX"

(side note: Isn't it great when you follow the rules 100%, and get shit on because the sponsor always assumes you're a cheat right away, and then refuses to look into the situation for proof that you aren't? And then sends whining emails back that they can right-click. boo hoo. Give me a break. If a mojosearch employee told HQ his code was 100% legit - don't you have this on file?)

8. Mojosearch pays HQ. this obviously happens because they know he wasn't cheating. so at some point they determined that they were in the wrong for accusing him of cheating, otherwise they would not have paid. Now - look back at those childish emails - those emails were written to a completely honest webmaster trying to make an honest buck with their program. Put yourself in that situation. Wouldn't you be pissed if you were HQ? Yet, he kept his cool...

9. HQ posts on GFY.com about mojosearch, and asks people their opinions.

10. He gets a reply from 12clicks, who I assume is associated with the program, in his reply he states: "so I must conclude that you ARE a moron."

Grow up.

12clicks states that the terms state:

"You may not open the search results in a new browser window. If your site is built in frames, you must break out of the frame into the full window when our results are delivered. You may not open our links inside of frames, ever."

Even though HQ has already CLEARLY stated that the quote was changed, and USED to say:

"You may not open the MojoSearch URL in a new browser window, unless your site is built with frames. If that's the case you must open MojoSearch.com in a new fullsized window. Also, you may not open our links inside of frames, ever."

(please note again that mojosearch confirmed that HQ was not breaking the rules, And mojosearch DID NOT send out any notification about rule changes)

Apparently the logic of this situation is too complicated for 12clicks to understand that HQ was following the rules of the program when he signed up. 12clicks appears to be attempting to state on this thread that HQ is wrong for not following the current rules. I think. I really don't know what 12 clicks is writing. He obviously has not read a single thing on this thread.

And what about his statement to HQ that "I must conclude that you ARE a moron." since "If one of my employees treated you like a moron and you weren't, we'd have fired them on the spot." Well guess what? You should have fired at least one or more of your employees, since they told HQ that he was wrong, and then sent him bitchy emails (i.e. "I've been to your sites. You shit freezes my Mac and you've disabled right clicking on my pc. I have no interest in looking any further. I'm sure XXXXX was right in his/her decision. XXXXX") and then found out he was correct all along.

Then 12clicks writes in this thread:

"You change your story too much to believe. No one was ever dropped for doing what you did. Of course if you ignored our directive to change the way you are opening us, I'm sure you were cancelled.
Oh, and I wasn't threatening to fire my employee, I was calling you a moron."

12clicks - get your head out of your ass and read the posts. His story hasn't changed. YOUR RULES are the thing that changed. He did not ignore the directives, he followed them exactly, and even cared enough to ask for the aid of an employee to ensure that he was doing it correctly, in which he was. HQ has been more than calm about this, and you are replying like you are 12 years old.

If these repsonses from 12 clicks on this thread are any indication about how this company is run, included with the quote emails from this company, and it's ignorance, then you can believe me that I will stay away from ever using you as a sponsor.

(oh let me add one thing - in response to your "Oh, and I wasn't threatening to fire my employee, I was calling you a moron.", let me just say this:

12clicks - YOU are the MORON, as anyone can plainly see simply by reading the posts in this thread. So grow the fuck up, and with all due respect, GO FUCK YOURSELF)

Doesn't anyone have any respect anymore? Just think about how you have JUST treated a perfectly legitimate affiliate. This sickens me.

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[This message has been edited by Juge (edited 04-06-2001).]
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