hi thanks for all the input it seems that microsoft even uses unix on there own stuff thanks for the article wizdom, hosting on a nix server is cheaper i just can't figure out how to make the telnet commands work and i'm afraid to fuck around with it to much i hate to piss off my support guy i guess i'll take a class at votec i need to do that anyway i'm a purchasing manager now for a boat co now and they are closing our plant and moving it to ar. and i want out of that business
thanks ric
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