finneus

Hi Everyone, well i took all i can take & I can't takes no more. This conversation took place between Myself & Mike Procter, who is Dan's Brother. Mike was fired from sexhound at the time I spoke with him. Which was on
3/9/01... Anyway, if this doesn't tell you to stay away from them, then I dont know what will..... Dan will now probably say that Mike was not fired. Well if he wasn't fired, then why would he tell me to stop buying traffic
from Sexhound and continue to explain how all the traffic is shit.Not to mention why they lost some of their biggest advertisers. Think about it. And if you want the orginal ICQ file, let me know.. This is not all I have
either.. There is much more......... Enjoy

Message Finneus10 3/9/01 12:54 AM
hey mike whats up

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 12:55 AM
not much, how bout you. Long time no
talk. if you didn't hear, i quit dude.
forced out kinda, didn't want to go to
rusky land


Message Finneus10 3/9/01 12:55 AM
yeah, actually i heard they let you
go.... i cant remember who i heard it
from

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 12:56 AM
yeah, they were lame, you still buy
traffic from them

Message Finneus10 3/9/01 12:57 AM
a little bit, i had to cut it down
because of unproductive traffic

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 12:58 AM
so on the serious note, it never worked
for you. i knida figured.

Message Finneus10 3/9/01 12:59 AM
you got it......... is there anything i
should worry about?

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 1:00 AM
yeah, you are buying free hosting
traffic. you tell them i told you.
mike i will never forgive you. also the
reason i haven't let shit out is for the
safety of my brother dan.

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 1:01 AM
that is why quality has dropped

Message Finneus10 3/9/01 1:01 AM
yeah i hear ya, so should i say
something or not? who the hell are they
sending the good stuff to?

Message Finneus10 3/9/01 1:02 AM
i knew that all along....... obviously
they would never admit it

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 1:02 AM
there is no more good stuff. they
redirect everything. on pc data online
before i left, we were ranked 659, so
all the traffic is mixed up big time.

Message Finneus10 3/9/01 1:02 AM
so basically we are getting a mix of
everything?

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 1:03 AM
nope. chris is a dick dude. has his
head up his ass, just going to ruin a
beautful thing. like andy edmond

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 1:03 AM
yeap. but 95 percent exit or shitty
free hosting.

Message Finneus10 3/9/01 1:04 AM
your right, i dont know what happened to
him........ they send exit traffic to
enter.sexhound as well? this sucks we
were up to 60,000 clicks per day and our
sales dropped in 1/2. we were better of
at about 30,000 hits per day

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 1:06 AM
yeah dude. you know the guy from penile
fitness. he was our big man. our total
rev was at about 150k amonth if that.
trust me,. how do you think i like to
yeild calls from you. chris would say
you guys where always tring to get over
us and get free shit. but when all my
clients call and complain i knew it was
going to be shitty

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 1:08 AM
sorry dude. it was dirty shit. i feel
hella bad,. i would drop if i where you.
or just demand cheaper rates, cause i
know they are hurting for money. if
you tell anyone this, fuck dude. all i
can say is my bro is fucked.

Message Finneus10 3/9/01 1:08 AM
dude i only complain when strange shit
happens... 1 week is great & the next
one is shit............. and its always
our fault. I wish I could just throw a
line out at them and say, " I know
eactly what you guys do , blah, blah,
blah, so dont try and put the blame on
us" trust me man, if traffic is going
good, u dont hear a peep from me. Why do
u think he lost all of his big
advertisers? Because he was screwing
them...... Wired Solutions, etc...

Message Finneus10 3/9/01 1:10 AM
i like your bro, i would never say
anything to hur your bro... we owe them
some money and Dan said that Chris would
sue if we didnt pay them monthly...... I
dont know if he really would or not

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 1:10 AM
yeah i know. dude it might be in your
bennifit to follow. i knew when i saw
wired on sex.com all over the place
something was wrong. iremember when i
first started, people would send us
money in hopes of getting a chance to
advertise.

Message Finneus10 3/9/01 1:10 AM
we were one of them, im just worried
that they will sue us..

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 1:11 AM
mike, to most of my knowledge
everything is out of the US except their
book keeper. they are just threating.

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 1:12 AM
you should have no worries. when i
left, we were barely making the bills.
and my clients made up 50 percent or
more of the income. they fucked them
up. they liek lawyers, but don''t care
to spend the money or waste their time.


Message Finneus10 3/9/01 1:12 AM
thats what i figured. how the hell could
they be hurting for money. Isnt Chris
loaded?

Message Finneus10 3/9/01 1:13 AM
why does your bro put up with this shit?
i feel bad arguing with him all the time
about the traffic

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 1:13 AM
my bro i s a sheep. i was too. chris
has like 5 mill in reitirement. VCI is
broker than a joke. their cars where
about to be repossed because hella late
on payments.

Message Finneus10 3/9/01 1:14 AM
so basically he is loaded but he is
running this into the ground?

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 1:15 AM
he is not that loaded, last time i
cghecked i was not sure on his
retirement. eric rogers sued him for
sexual harrasment. to tell you mike the
worst they would do is through you on
the MF list.

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 1:15 AM
they are all show and no go.

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 1:16 AM
how much you owe them

Message Finneus10 3/9/01 1:16 AM
thats what i figured, between me and you
though, i really feel bad arguing with
your bro.. He is a good guy..

Message Finneus10 3/9/01 1:17 AM
its a long story...... about $20+k, one
of our accountants pulled a fast one on
us. We are in the process of suing him

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 1:17 AM
yeah, he is kewl and i love him to
death. i just know he is 27, and afraid
of life. he is smart in history and
political science. just afriad of
getting shot down and thinks this VCI
thing is his only option

Message Finneus10 3/9/01 1:18 AM
what i dont understand is why he would
let sexhound go to shit? its fucking
easy money.................what else is
he working on?

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 1:18 AM
that sucks. always something stupid
that ruins it all

Message Finneus10 3/9/01 1:18 AM
so i am worried, $20k is alot of money.
I dont know how to play this one

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 1:18 AM
he is trying to make a napster like
thing, houndzilla.com also
casinocounter.com and spycounter. the
funny thing is they have revised and
remade all these things 20 times or so.
russian programers sucks

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 1:19 AM
tell them you will pay. they won';t
sue. if you get a letter to be served
which i highly doubt you will. don't
worry. if you get letter then talk. but
we never sued one person when i was
there except former employess, it was
too expensive.

Message Finneus10 3/9/01 1:20 AM
what the hell did he move to Russia for.
To save money?

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 1:20 AM
and not worth time or effort

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 1:20 AM
no, you want the truth. i tell you some
sick shit if you don't tell anyone else

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 1:21 AM
you going to be around in 30 minutes. i
have to write this essay for school real
quick

Message Finneus10 3/9/01 1:21 AM
mike, i like your brother and would
never say shit to hurt him...... at
least your being honest with me & saving
me from making mistakes

Message Finneus10 3/9/01 1:21 AM
i should be, its getting late here....

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 1:22 AM
ok, 30 minutes. if not i talk to you
later.

Message Finneus10 3/9/01 1:22 AM
k, i appreciate it

Message Jack_Horne 3/9/01 1:22 AM
np