Gemini - those statistics you are "quoting" don't even exist. It's impossible to say how many lives are saved by gun-owners as you don't know the outcome if the person had no gun. So, if they do exist they are statistically irrelevant - I think
I suppose you could find the percentage of injuries/deaths when both the criminal and the victim had a gun, and compare it to when just the criminal had a gun. I'd actually like to see those.
But really this whole thread has gotten way off from what I ever said.