I give up . . .
And Lightning, I just meant handguns, not all guns. I *DO* understand that it's not the solution and that crimes wil still be committed. Don'thave a gun? Use a knife . . but chances are you might survive that.
12 clicks - I have a choice to get in a car or not. There's a difference.
And statistics really are meaningless because both sides can manipulate them to show an advantage. I'm really sorry you think I'm such a bad person - the fact is what we're doing IS NOT working. And actually I agree with more of what you say than you might think, but the reality is I see no evidence of society changing for the better.