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Old 03-06-2001, 04:31 AM  
Gemini
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Thats a point Dyanna. Personally know of two would be robbers that didn't get what they wanted. lol And we weren't inside the house. One of them will never bother anyone again. You are right on the don't try it. Few have the training to handle that situation. Advice... Marry ex spec ops and live safe. But this is getting away from the thread entirely.

If these kids couldn't get guns they'd use knives, bombs, cars, whatever they could get ahold of. The problem needs to be addressed that while we watched Wile E Coyote fall off a cliff and such, we understood it was make believe. As time goes on and the kids get worse and worse you have to wonder how much the BS tv and games etc have to do with it. They go home and kill 'people' for hours while watching people getting blown up in surround sound on 60 inch screens. The kids aren't understanding the make believe part anymore. How many hear remember asking "Mom how does that coyote get back up?"

Ask any psychologist, the more you do something the more hardened you get to it. And to an immature mind that is dangerous. Any male here that spent time doing any sort of hide and seek jungle fighting with hand to hand should be able to tell you that it hardens them in to a killing machine just to survive. And they were 'trained' and 'debriefed' to a degree. But it hangs on. If they see someone getting killed they more likely will jump in rather than run.

Bottom line is taking guns away deter nothing. Look at the so called gunless countries. The anti-gun ppl forget to mention that while gun killings go down, the other forms of killing are right up there with our stats. Those stats more than cover the per capita including our gun deaths. Also look at the stats of the few cities that make it mandatory for EVERYone to have and carry a gun. they are like 0.02% compared to 12% of other cities.

Anyone remember the first time they got kissed and how exciting it was? (Older folks here) Now thats nothing but it will sure get a rise out of the adrenelin as well as the buddies to talk about wiping out a group of people. Kids aren't getting the excitement like we used to. It has to be MORE and MORE daring. So where do they go from kissing, then sex, sneak drinking,drugs...

The schools do need to work on that problem of kids getting picked on. My old man was picked on when he was a child. Someone decided martial arts would cure that. It did. If the schools had been abit more involved as well as the parents teaching these bullies that thats not how to act, then maybe it would happen alot less. Now with both parents working and the schools overworked and understaffed...

Someone needs to pick up the ball and TEACH not preach methods of remediation by disallowing the citizens things. Prohibition of any form doesn't stop it. Sort of like the local big city outlawing assault weapons. How many do ya think got rid of them? Are they going house to house to search for our weaponry? (while the teenagers play shoot em up on gory games as they search?)

And by all means lets keep that free speech in place so those sites like Babasgirl found keep egging the kids on.

On another note, no gun involved...local teen girl poisons a teacher with a common chemistry class chemical. The girl could have done alot more damage had she chosen to. Oh lets just ban chemistry class. EVERYthing around us can be used as a weapon. Alot of it to a mass scale.

I might agree to the saving of one life by banning weapons.. but how many MORE will die if they ARE banned............. Is that worth it? 1 or 10 or 100 for thousands is a fair exchange?

Now if we get rid of porn, rape stops, get rid of cars, no more drunk driving, Hmmm what else can we ban to prevent crime?
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