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Originally posted by Webby
KRL:
Hi KRL!
There was one good think that actually came out of the "Iraqi War" - ie the deposing of Saddam Hussein.
Was this a "reason" to go to war? I could not say that Hussein's regime justified a war. The premise of the war (and all the obvious urgency), was based on solid hard evidence that he had WMD and "apparently", (more by slanted propaganda than anything), he was planning to attack the US and had connections with bin Laden and lots more "innudeno" etc.
If this was in fact the case, yes - these are powerful reasons for this war. However, there is little doubt, (and I never actually doubted before the war), that this "evidence" was in fact, false. Those who produced the "evidence" in the first instance are either stepping away from their statements or currently under pressure to resign (as may be the case with Blair in the UK). I have little doubt many other countries and the IAEA had more concrete information that this soap opera was untrue.
This action, not just by the US, but by the UK, - has been manufactured to support an ideology, which, when you analyse it, - has no credibility in any civilized world. Add to that the fact that many thousands of people have been killed, maimed or left homeless and the situation is clearly that the attacking countries are in more danger from "terrorist" attacks than they ever were, prior to 9/11. What you sow, you will reap.
So, no - I can't see *anyone* claiming this was a reason to go to war.
Does it strike fear that the US can wield it's stick of liberation? No... however there is in this world an issue that may be more on the minds of many. That is "trust". Trust in a government that basically cannot be trusted where they have been proven to lie and decieve there own citizens. (BTW.. that is a liberal use of the word "liberation" - did you really mean "occupation"? :-) )
When one talks about uploading the Constitution of the land, that means simply that, - in both spirit and in daily life. Leaders are elected to be entrusted with upholding those ideals and serve the citizens of the land.
When the world watches the activities of some current leaders, it is clear, that they have mislead people and act in a fashion where the Founding Fathers would be spinning in their graves.
It is not unreasonable to expect much higher standards of conduct from leaders and less "words" ("words" = "innuendo" and "lies").
This "adventure" into Iraq, although it is good to have Saddam gone, it is nowhere near "justified" and the judgement of the instigators is certainly in question - hence "trust". My own opinion? I would not trust them in any way, - they are totally untrustworthy and fall below any standards for any elected office of government.
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Webby you are thinking too hard on this. Americans have changed.
In the USA no one has time or desire anymore to worry about it.
All they want to know is get the job done anyway you need to guys. Nobody cares if its justified or not justified. They just want anyone who they perceive to be a potential threat either taken out or subdued to the point where they are no longer able to do anything to hurt the US or its allies.
George Tenet, Director of US Cental Intelligence summed it up best.
"After 9/11, the gloves came off."
The public has given Washington card blanche.