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Theo · 12-29-2003, 03:03 PM

You only hurt yourself in the short run. Not even long run since changes in this industry are radical.

Facts:

- porncash scams can charge surfers up to $200 while they appear as completely free and the only written notice exist on a TOS on some page.

- they promise tapes that do not exists. Plain imagination.

- The chargebacks out of these sales will turn against you and not against Atherton. I read porncash does 8k sales/day volume. How many chargebacks out of this? 5k? Well why not,not many customers will let a scammer steal $200 from their cards without doing anything..... 5k chargebacks/day is the cb limit for HALF MILLION valid transaction/day. The average surfer has 7-8 memberships to adult sites in a year period. (at least from past stats i read at ynot). This scam will be up for 5-6 months. Do you expect the scammed surfers to go and join again after this an adult site like nothing happened? Yeah ok. Keep dreaming.

What's the outcome of this? If you depend from the monthly checks to keep your normal lifestyle you are only hurting yourself and overall the industry and you are hurting VERY BAD. The consequences will be noticable in ratios within few months.

Serious businessmen and paysites owners have been building trust and credibility towards the surfers for years. Always scams existed that were hurting overall, but nothing like this and most important not in the range of porncash like it does now. You managed to kill the trust. Lack of trust is lack of business.

It's your game, your field.

12-29-2003, 03:03 PM
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	FACE IT: If you are small guy and promote porncash scams you are an idiot You only hurt yourself in the short run. Not even long run since changes in this industry are radical. Facts: - porncash scams can charge surfers up to $200 while they appear as completely free and the only written notice exist on a TOS on some page. - they promise tapes that do not exists. Plain imagination. - The chargebacks out of these sales will turn against you and not against Atherton. I read porncash does 8k sales/day volume. How many chargebacks out of this? 5k? Well why not,not many customers will let a scammer steal $200 from their cards without doing anything..... 5k chargebacks/day is the cb limit for HALF MILLION valid transaction/day. The average surfer has 7-8 memberships to adult sites in a year period. (at least from past stats i read at ynot). This scam will be up for 5-6 months. Do you expect the scammed surfers to go and join again after this an adult site like nothing happened? Yeah ok. Keep dreaming. What's the outcome of this? If you depend from the monthly checks to keep your normal lifestyle you are only hurting yourself and overall the industry and you are hurting VERY BAD. The consequences will be noticable in ratios within few months. Serious businessmen and paysites owners have been building trust and credibility towards the surfers for years. Always scams existed that were hurting overall, but nothing like this and most important not in the range of porncash like it does now. You managed to kill the trust. Lack of trust is lack of business. It's your game, your field.