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Originally posted by slapass
I am more amazed that webmasters accept the 50% with the built in 13% processor cut versus a PPS program.
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This is because your more likely to be shaved on a PPS program than you are on a revshare. It's common business sense to know how many rebills are required to recoup the intitial payout. If you are paying out over 50 on a signup on a 20.00 bucks a month program then in order for you to make a profit, the rebills have to hit 6 months. Those running PPS programs know what I'm talking about. Affiliates are not the only expense in running a program. You have content, hosting, legal, and I can go on and on and on. But you know where I'm coming from. It's impossible to run a high PPS program without shaving.
What's amazing to me is some of you just don't care. As long as you are making the money and it's converting, that is the most important part.
As for ccbill... they are some legit reasons on why these options exist. For one thing they are not hiding anything from you. On the other hand they need to make affiliates aware of what the sponsors have pick for rebill options etc.
I'm going to give you an example, I know this is a lengthy post but I want to make a point. I will try to make this short and sweet...
We have been providing affiliate tracking services for 7 years now. We have never deliberately added anything that could be used to cheat affiliates. If it wasn't for affiliates we would be in business. We did do a feature years ago that I had forgot about. After reading about all this shaving in the adult industry ( we have been providing our services to the mainstream since our beginning and just now switching over ) I decided to refresh my memory on exactly what that feature does.
The feature we built was to reward a lower commission on rebills after the initial signup. For example you can reward 75% on the initial and then whatever you wanted on the rebill. It got me thinking, this could be used against the affiliates. The sponsor could be saying they are running a 50/50 program, but only rewarding say 30% on the rebill. I had the programmers to check every program that was using the feature and then went to verify what they were advertising. I will use latinjocks.com as an example. They had 50% set for the initial and 35% set for the rebill. I almost freaked out, they are cheating I thought. I went to the their website though and seen what they were advertising. 50% on the initial and 35% on their rebills. Exactly what their program had described.
We are in the process of checking everyone that is using the feature and making sure it matches what they are advertising. If not they will have a cancelled account. No ifs ands or buts about it.
But you see they are legit reasons behind these options.....
Sorry to make this so long but wanted to give you my insight on this and 7 years of experience in the biz. Not all sponsors are shaving, not all cc processors are making it easier for the sponsors to shave. They are giving them more options in which to reward webmasters. Can these options be used for shaving, yes. Are they being used for shaving? Probably so, not as many as you think though. They are far more running legit operations on a revshare basis than they are programs running a high PPS program.
As for us, we will have it to where webmasters can see the options that the sponsor has choosen for rebills. I will have the programmers start on it immediantly. I would advise anyone else, sponsors, cc processors, etc to do the same. Especially if you don't want to be associated with someone that shaves.
Be warned though affiliates, your high demanding PPS commissions will be dropping. With the new demand of trust leaking back into the community it will become harder for you to be shaved. However if you are not being shaved your not going to get the huge commissions you have been enjoying these last few years. All (seemingly) good things must come to an end, but once we all realize that it is better to be honest, a bigger more better thing will emerge. Trust something that is almost extinct
Sorry it took so long, but I hope I made a point. I will take my 50 some posts and crawl back into my hole
