I know this bbs is run by these guys but i want to get this point acrross.
A warning to all webmasters.
After promoting Amateur money on foxcounter and following all their rules, they now refuse to pay us anything. In fact we had over 5000 websites advertising their program.
We called Amateur money (adult.com) and spoke to a very
"Well trained" guy called Josh. The reason we say he is "well trained" is that he has an excuse for every way you approach this issue. He assured us that we are (foxcounter) a reputable program and Fox will be paid. So several weeks went by and we heard nothing. So we contacted him via icq.
Note how he starts calling us the cheat?s lol.
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ICQ History Log For:
126813938
[email protected]
Started on Thu Dec 04 12:43:04 2003
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hothits 26/11/20 3:52 PM hi bruce here from foxcounter.com can youlet
me know what is going on as discussed with you
on the phone with payment
josh@adult 27/11/20 3:53 AM Well everything is gonna work out as I said it
would...but I haven't been abale to talk to
lens to get the checks printed...everyon'es on
vacation...
hothits 27/11/20 9:38 AM ok
hothits 4/12/200 11:11 AM josh still waiting on an update of when i will
be paid
josh@adult 4/12/200 11:14 AM Ok...lets go ahead and do this now...gimme
your account # so I don't have to look for
it...I think the paperwork is in accounting.
hothits 4/12/200 11:15 AM 72093572
josh@adult 4/12/200 11:24 AM bear with me...
hothits 4/12/200 11:24 AM ok
josh@adult 4/12/200 11:33 AM OK, so what I'm going to try to do is this...
a. Get you a chunk of your money right off
the bat, as much as possible. To pay you the
full amount would be paying you $77 per join,
on a 9.95 join.
you were 12/30677.
b. Work out a way to get more of your traffic
in a mutual beneficial rate or manner.
c. formulate a way to allow you to regain the
remainder of what we don't pay outright.
josh@adult 4/12/200 11:33 AM What would you say is a good compromise for
the initial payment?
hothits 4/12/200 11:34 AM we require the full amount 6cents a click is
6cents a click
josh@adult 4/12/200 11:36 AM Well as I look at the traffic, the nature of
the manner in which it was sent has lead to us
getting 404 traffic, password traffic, non
adult, and a wide range of other unacceptable
traffic.
josh@adult 4/12/200 11:38 AM
http://home1.gte.net/glendeas/java/s_tukusi.ht
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hothits 4/12/200 11:39 AM the traffic was from foxcounter
josh@adult 4/12/200 11:39 AM
http://www.nebraskacoeds.com/401err.htm
hothits 4/12/200 11:40 AM the traffic was coming from foxcounters gif
that appears on 5000 websites
josh@adult 4/12/200 11:40 AM
http://home1.gte.net/glendeas/dolls.html
josh@adult 4/12/200 11:42 AM
http://www.choppershed.com/main.html
5000 pages of which you have no control of the
content, the type of traffic, etc...
many of which violate multiple rules...
I'm not trying to rehash the old arguement
simply remind you that we came to an
understanding that there has to be a common
ground.
josh@adult 4/12/200 11:43 AM <
http://www.chumash.net/xxxpasswords/>
hothits 4/12/200 11:43 AM yep and you told us you would get it sorted
and we will be paid
josh@adult 4/12/200 11:44 AM so you feel you should be paid regardless of
the traffic quality and the violtaion of our
terms of service?
hothits 4/12/200 11:45 AM there was no violation of terms. Just stop
avoiding the payout
josh@adult 4/12/200 11:45 AM That's were you are wrong...I'll pass all of
this along...its out of my hands...I'll be in
touch within the hour.
hothits 4/12/200 11:45 AM ok
josh@adult 4/12/200 11:49 AM oh and I made a mistake...paying you the full
amount would be paying you $150 a join.
hothits 4/12/200 11:50 AM diffrrent what you told me on the phone.
josh@adult 4/12/200 11:51 AM well work it out...12/30677
josh@adult 4/12/200 11:59 AM Since there's no inbetween here its over my
head...I'm gonna pass this on to Lensman. If
you would like to email him you can do so at
[email protected].
Otherwise he'll be in touch.
hothits 4/12/200 12:00 PM here we go with the excuses
hothits 4/12/200 12:00 PM just pay up
josh@adult 4/12/200 12:01 PM You BROKE THE FUCKING RULES!
hothits 4/12/200 12:02 PM did we ?? thats a great new excuse
josh@adult 4/12/200 12:02 PM I don't even want to talk to you. Email
lensman or wait for his reply...don't contact
me.
hothits 4/12/200 12:02 PM ok this will be going up an all boards
hothits 4/12/200 12:02 PM thieves
josh@adult 4/12/200 12:03 PM You broke our rules...find a board full of
cheaters and you'll do fine.
hothits 4/12/200 12:03 PM whatever-- lier
hothits 4/12/200 12:14 PM ok its going up on all boards
josh@adult 4/12/200 12:16 PM my ducks are in a row.
josh@adult 4/12/200 12:19 PM You gonna do me the courtesy of posting links
to the threads?
hothits 4/12/200 12:20 PM sure i bet your got your book of excuses
ready. You hve more to lose than us
josh@adult 4/12/200 12:20 PM All I have is facts...
hothits 4/12/200 12:22 PM the made up facts
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Also we took screen shots that clearly shows $$$ out standing, and the traffic rating as 3 star that is average. In fact sometimes it went to 4 star and that?s above average.
http://www.sexmansion.com/foxcheat/1.gif
http://www.sexmansion.com/foxcheat/2.gif
http://www.sexmansion.com/foxcheat/3.gif
http://www.sexmansion.com/foxcheat/4.gif
Josh you are very good at the excuses. We have the proof so just payup.
We will not advertise on Adult.com whilst this issue remains.
We do not recommend people use Amateur money as you will not be paid, going by our experience.
Avoid them!