During the last Florida convention, I was by taking a piss in the bathroom near the bar down by the main pool and I met one of the dudes who was responsible for the SpiceTV shit...He said that the people at the mainstream Playboy look down on the Spice people because they are "Hardcore" but he said that the hardcore is what is making all of the money for Playboy right now and the mainstream Playboy people need to stop looking down on them....
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