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Old 10-25-2003, 07:22 AM  
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Originally posted by goBigtime





If the defense group had their day in court tomorrow & Acacias patents were completely invalidated, what % of your pledges do you think would come through with the actual donation if you hit your $250,000 goal today.

Because I can guarantee you it wouldn't be 100%.

To me, this FTPF pledge drive is allowing people to FEEL like they have donated money towards THE CURRENT ISSUE without actually having to donate anything.


See?



No I don't see. No where have I have said in FTPF postings that money to FTPF will go to fight against Acacia, I have clearly said it is to fight patent abuse.. there IS are reasons for saying it that way.. but of course, the first case to fight against just happens to be Acacia.

People are pledging to FTPF AND DONATING to IMPA. The counter below represents people who understand that patent abuse cases like Acacia don't end with Acacia. Maybe that's why the counter is so low, these are the people who have paid attention to the issues and understand the ramifications of Acacia and other potential patent holders.

So if Acacia were settled today, I feel pretty confident that a greater percentage will still donate when the time comes (i understand that a percentage won't come through irregardless if Acacia is still around or not).

People who pledge are saying, Go defend webmasters against Acacia if you get operational fast enough, and also look after other patent license issues that will come from inside and outside the industry.

Luke Ford reported on his website that Ron Levi has setup an Intellectual Properties company (ie. get patents and get webmasters to license them). Does that raise any eyebrows here? Ideaflood.com is a different company that has a business model of getting patents and ultimately to get webmasters to license them. Forgent.com is an austin-based patent portfolio company who is getting attention for their patent claims over JPEG. Acacia announced in 3Q call that they will represent patent holders to license their patent and split the bounty.

I am not anti-patent at all. If the idea of the patent didn't exist before the patent, it's a good one, and that inventor DESERVES to protect their idea. Bad patents are ones that people were using the idea already and someone, somehow got the patent for it. Patent Abuse is taking a "bad" patent and getting people to license it.

If you have a "good" patent that somehow affects all webmasters, then hey, more power to them for inventing something that was truly novel.

And lastly, for those that read my long posts, I have always been supportive of IMPA, I have been telling people to become MEMBERS and to also DONATE to IMPA and to INVEST in the Defense Fund. If you can spare an extra $100, then pledge to FTPF.

I have suggested that the TGP guys maybe channel their efforts under IMPA.. but I to understand Choker's point that he is focused on the issues that affect him..... and that's so true for all of us, we want actions to the issues that affect us first.

So if IMPA doesn't want to take on the TGP specific angle of fighting Acacia, then I understand the sentiment of wanting to form their own group.

My only comment to forming a new group is make sure you do your homework first in how you intend to fight... I would suggest consulting with www.FR.com IMPA does not have the exclusivity to using F&R attorneys and some posts might seem to imply. The difference is the F&R attorneys that are on the Defense Fund/Group's case are VERY knowledgeable, already know the issues, already collecting prior art, already built up a case.....so that's why the posts to go under IMPA have been suggested because it would save on attorney time to get whatever firm the TGP guys have been able to convince to accept an Adult Industry client.



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