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codymc12 · 10-15-2003, 05:35 PM

The major point is simple. The law, long term, isn't about restricting porn to minors or freesites - it's about precedent. Law in this country, particularly in the lower courts, runs to a large degree on precedent, eg, interpretation of the application of the law.

Case in point? Why do you think there was so much uproar about the recent Supremem Court decision on that Gay case? Ostensibly it was just about violating the rights of these two individuals to have consensual sex of their choosing. But to gay haters, it was about much more than that - and they think correctly. It was about setting a major precedent on gay rights that can and will be used in 1000's of other cases in the future.

In that case, it was a good thing. But when it comes to porn, what someone said earlier is true - those involved HAVE NO BOUNDS. If you think so, you are living in a fantasyland.

The bottom line is, the obscenity laws as written enable those with religious agendas to decided what is acceptable for adults to view. The whole 'community standards' thing is an incredible cluster fuck.

The only laws that should exist, IMHO, regarding adult sexual activities (and this includes prostitution, etc) should concern themselves solely with harm and consent. IE - here's what should be enforceably illegal: things that harm, or do not involve consent. Rape is illegal. Child porn is illegal. Bestiality is illegal (no consent). Beyond that, if you really want to stick to the constitution, everything else should be legal and up to an adult to make up his own mind about. If he's a sicko that likes to eat shit, and you don't like it - too bad.

Here's a parallel - it IS legal to march around and promote Nazi'ism. You can talk about jews being bad and how great Hitler was as much as you want. Don' t you think that's just as putrid as, say, scat? Sure it is. But it's legal for a reason - because you don't want someone deciding what it's okay for you to talk about in America. You want to decide for yourself.

And you sure as hell don't want laws passed deciding for you.

This bill, if passed, sets a precedent that will open the floodgates for other laws, more prosecution, and a hard time for any U.S. webmaster dealing in porn.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is sadly, sadly, sadly mistaken.

Free sites and restricting access to minors is simply the 'sheeps clothing' to make it palatable, and get a foot in the door on precedent. And look - it even works right here among adult webmasters themselves.

10-15-2003, 05:35 PM
codymc12 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 719	The major point is simple. The law, long term, isn't about restricting porn to minors or freesites - it's about precedent. Law in this country, particularly in the lower courts, runs to a large degree on precedent, eg, interpretation of the application of the law. Case in point? Why do you think there was so much uproar about the recent Supremem Court decision on that Gay case? Ostensibly it was just about violating the rights of these two individuals to have consensual sex of their choosing. But to gay haters, it was about much more than that - and they think correctly. It was about setting a major precedent on gay rights that can and will be used in 1000's of other cases in the future. In that case, it was a good thing. But when it comes to porn, what someone said earlier is true - those involved HAVE NO BOUNDS. If you think so, you are living in a fantasyland. The bottom line is, the obscenity laws as written enable those with religious agendas to decided what is acceptable for adults to view. The whole 'community standards' thing is an incredible cluster fuck. The only laws that should exist, IMHO, regarding adult sexual activities (and this includes prostitution, etc) should concern themselves solely with harm and consent. IE - here's what should be enforceably illegal: things that harm, or do not involve consent. Rape is illegal. Child porn is illegal. Bestiality is illegal (no consent). Beyond that, if you really want to stick to the constitution, everything else should be legal and up to an adult to make up his own mind about. If he's a sicko that likes to eat shit, and you don't like it - too bad. Here's a parallel - it IS legal to march around and promote Nazi'ism. You can talk about jews being bad and how great Hitler was as much as you want. Don' t you think that's just as putrid as, say, scat? Sure it is. But it's legal for a reason - because you don't want someone deciding what it's okay for you to talk about in America. You want to decide for yourself. And you sure as hell don't want laws passed deciding for you. This bill, if passed, sets a precedent that will open the floodgates for other laws, more prosecution, and a hard time for any U.S. webmaster dealing in porn. Anyone who thinks otherwise is sadly, sadly, sadly mistaken. Free sites and restricting access to minors is simply the 'sheeps clothing' to make it palatable, and get a foot in the door on precedent. And look - it even works right here among adult webmasters themselves.