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rodme_him · 10-09-2003, 07:32 PM

Before I get flamed attacked or whatever I want all people to know this comes from a reliable source, all information is verifiable and is considered correct at time of posting.

First off, all credit card companies, US based, have teamed up with the Homeland Protection Agency, created after 911, to do one thing and one thing only and that is: Stop foreigners using US made credit cards in America for anti-American anything. Pretty wide open gate there for "anything", in the governments eyes, means by their interpretation, "ANYTHING THEY DEEM NECESSARY", for the security/protection of Americans.

You now have to have a picture ID with your credit card, which in this case is an American driver's license to purchase anything.

The one weak link in this was the internet. Soooooo, they teamed up with all the credit card companies and are doing what most are experiencing at this moment, pretty slick huh, but down right unnecessary and an afront to any legitimate business like us....

Yes they did a study of all porno sites outside the US that were allowed to do business here, but could not control encoded things that could be put into the traffic back to the US, so this is what they did. BS again, but paranoia to its max lifting its ugly head...

Second, which is total absurdity.

Scenario: A person recieves a bill in the mail, want to pay by credit card on the net. That person goes to the companies site, get to the pay page and is promptly told the only card you can pay with is the Discover Card and nothing but that card. That card is highly restricted, limited to a few, and is owned by the Sears and Roebuck company here in the US. No outside sources, (other countries) allowed....... One problem solved.

Next problem, same scenario....You still owe the bill, go to a place that accepts Visa, Mastercard, American Express, and so on, start to pay the pay the bill with the card, but one catch, you cannot pay the bill at the place where you are even with a picture ID, you must have cash....You go to the ATM, located conveniently right in the store where you went to pay the bill, draw the cash out, and go back to the counter to pay it.

CATCH #2: You hand them the cash for the bill amount, they still ask for a picture ID ??????? Yep, still ask for a picture ID, and if you are not paying all the bill, ie, only what is due on the monthly statement, not total amount owed say to VISA, then they, the place where you are cannot accept partial payments.

CATCH #3.....You just got a ticket for speeding, and in the state where you live they take your driver's license until the fine is paid and then you have to go to court to retrieve it before a judge..

(The person who shared this story with stated "I know about this one, I used to live in Illinois, and this is one of their local laws, crazy SOB's"), but yes they take your divers license and give you a piece of paper stating temporary license until court date..

Say this is what happened to you, you have your VISA, no ID, but are able to pay because you went to the ATM, used your VISA, got the money and when you get back to pay, you are asked for that picture ID that was just taken from you, AND YOU ARE PAYING CASH FOR THE BILL DUE!!!!!! Is this the most ludicrous and un-American thing you/we can possibly think of. Here you are with American dollars, going to pay---say your water bill at a local pharmacy and they will not take you American dollars because you do not have a picture ID....Sheer craziness and paranoia to the max.....

This is just the tip of the iceberg my friend says, and it only gets
worse as they dig deeper...This alone to me is not American in any way, paranoia, over protection as a mother would do to a new born baby......We are not babies, and don't need this type of SHIT happening in our lives due to the government...It will end, but unfortunately, as most of our internal wars, not without a goverment restructure, another civil war and a lot of lives lost in the process....

Poverty is back in the United States once again because of its own damned governments intervention into private affairs of others.

As I said above, this is information gather by a long standing member of my site, and has all been verified and is considered legit

You can either believe or brand me whatever!

10-09-2003, 07:32 PM
rodme_him Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 51	The Truth about the NEW Visa/Mastercard Regulations Before I get flamed attacked or whatever I want all people to know this comes from a reliable source, all information is verifiable and is considered correct at time of posting. First off, all credit card companies, US based, have teamed up with the Homeland Protection Agency, created after 911, to do one thing and one thing only and that is: Stop foreigners using US made credit cards in America for anti-American anything. Pretty wide open gate there for "anything", in the governments eyes, means by their interpretation, "ANYTHING THEY DEEM NECESSARY", for the security/protection of Americans. You now have to have a picture ID with your credit card, which in this case is an American driver's license to purchase anything. The one weak link in this was the internet. Soooooo, they teamed up with all the credit card companies and are doing what most are experiencing at this moment, pretty slick huh, but down right unnecessary and an afront to any legitimate business like us.... Yes they did a study of all porno sites outside the US that were allowed to do business here, but could not control encoded things that could be put into the traffic back to the US, so this is what they did. BS again, but paranoia to its max lifting its ugly head... Second, which is total absurdity. Scenario: A person recieves a bill in the mail, want to pay by credit card on the net. That person goes to the companies site, get to the pay page and is promptly told the only card you can pay with is the Discover Card and nothing but that card. That card is highly restricted, limited to a few, and is owned by the Sears and Roebuck company here in the US. No outside sources, (other countries) allowed....... One problem solved. Next problem, same scenario....You still owe the bill, go to a place that accepts Visa, Mastercard, American Express, and so on, start to pay the pay the bill with the card, but one catch, you cannot pay the bill at the place where you are even with a picture ID, you must have cash....You go to the ATM, located conveniently right in the store where you went to pay the bill, draw the cash out, and go back to the counter to pay it. CATCH #2: You hand them the cash for the bill amount, they still ask for a picture ID ??????? Yep, still ask for a picture ID, and if you are not paying all the bill, ie, only what is due on the monthly statement, not total amount owed say to VISA, then they, the place where you are cannot accept partial payments. CATCH #3.....You just got a ticket for speeding, and in the state where you live they take your driver's license until the fine is paid and then you have to go to court to retrieve it before a judge.. (The person who shared this story with stated "I know about this one, I used to live in Illinois, and this is one of their local laws, crazy SOB's"), but yes they take your divers license and give you a piece of paper stating temporary license until court date.. Say this is what happened to you, you have your VISA, no ID, but are able to pay because you went to the ATM, used your VISA, got the money and when you get back to pay, you are asked for that picture ID that was just taken from you, AND YOU ARE PAYING CASH FOR THE BILL DUE!!!!!! Is this the most ludicrous and un-American thing you/we can possibly think of. Here you are with American dollars, going to pay---say your water bill at a local pharmacy and they will not take you American dollars because you do not have a picture ID....Sheer craziness and paranoia to the max..... This is just the tip of the iceberg my friend says, and it only gets worse as they dig deeper...This alone to me is not American in any way, paranoia, over protection as a mother would do to a new born baby......We are not babies, and don't need this type of SHIT happening in our lives due to the government...It will end, but unfortunately, as most of our internal wars, not without a goverment restructure, another civil war and a lot of lives lost in the process.... Poverty is back in the United States once again because of its own damned governments intervention into private affairs of others. As I said above, this is information gather by a long standing member of my site, and has all been verified and is considered legit You can either believe or brand me whatever! __________________ <center> <b>A good webmaster is a happy webmaster</b> </center>