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Old 02-16-2026, 10:40 AM  
Forest
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Originally Posted by javbucks View Post
I understand your logic, but there is an important point here.

Any volume, including that of “whales,” always has management.
No self-respecting player who actually submits 300+ applications per day wastes time on operations and initial communication.

In such cases:

the whale works through their affiliate/traffic manager,

and on our side, communication also goes through the product's affiliate manager.

This is normal B2B practice, not a question of “regular employee or not.”
The manager is the point of entry, the filter, and the person who resolves issues faster than the owner or media buyer.

We don't offer to “chat” or sell an idea.
We talk about the product, figures, conditions, and scaling - and that's what managers on both sides do.

If the traffic, metrics, and terms match, the conversation always moves to the next level.
If not, it just means that the businesses are not a good fit, and that's okay too.
You’ve obviously never been a whale. When the shit hits the fan (and it always does) I text the fucking owner at 2am because I don’t want to lose 10k in a few hours of shit being fucked. Some ad manager can only pass shit up the chain. My time and traffic are more valuable than your time or job.

Keep posting all your “logic” it won’t fly with whales. They only care about 3 things. Conversions and communication with powers that be and on time payments.

Aff managers are nothing. I landed my first whale as a manager but that was 20 years ago. Times are different now. Whales are underground and will only move traffic if $$ drop. Also most whales are mailers. So if you’re not set up for that you’re doomed.
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