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Old 06-28-2023, 07:45 AM  
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I'm sorry been watching this thread and it baffles me as to whether you've actually shot any scenes much less been in this industry for long to know the rules>

I'll try to help out if I can....

If you shot thousands of pictures and 50-100 scenes, then it could be very easily claimed that you were business partners, and that the talent wasn't duped as much as a one-time performer, or someone who did a couple of scenes.

The contract usually details how many scenes - and also using that logic if I had a team of construction builders put up a building and worked a few years doing it - does that mean that I own part of the business that leases the building? No - you are contracted no matter how much work you do.

You would likely be sued for a better percentage in the former scenario, but in the latter scenario, you would be sued for damages and for content removal.

A contract job is just that - you were told what was expected and how much. You can't come back and demand more because you thought you worked harder.

Context matters, because:
1. Have you paid her (or him) a lump sum?

2. Is the content vanilla, or is it something very extreme, or shameful?

Shameful?? That's a matter of opinion isn't it. A model is told what scenes are coming up - if she doesn't want to do it then they'll find someone else who can. It should be clearly laid out at the beginning. But there is not really shameful or morals only legal and not legal when it comes to shooting porn.

3. Can you prove how much you made off of her (or his) content?

Maybe - I would expect that if she's invited back for more scenes. If you're in the adult industry you should know already people don't share their numbers openly with anyone.

If it cost you approximately $2000 to shoot a scene, and most of your members tuned in to watch that particular scene, then you could argue that you paid very little, but gained quite a lot.

Wow - that's not an argument that's an omission since for every eg. 100 scenes you may only get one that's memorable and watched more while the other 99 are waste - so the phrase is not we paid little - it's we got lucky and paid the producers and editor well.


You can't go to prison for something like that, it would be a civil matter entirely.

The three most common civil cases are tort claims, contract breaches and landlord/tenant issues. If the model signed a contract and the company fulfilled the contract as written how then does that constitute a breach? Everyone did what they were suppose to do.

Oh and for the record if someone loses a case in civil court, that person may be ordered to pay money to the other side or return property, but that person does not go to jail just for losing the case.

This law is to do with something criminal, i.e. publishing someone's images or videos without their consent, or creating fake explicit pictures, etc. which should land you in prison regardless.

Well since there have been cases of voyeur content happen without consent most adult producers stay clear of that scenario altogether. Even those walking around in the background. That issue was dealt with a long time ago but I'm sure there are cases where it happens. As far as creating fake pictures - that's out of the hands of the producer but rather the users who created them - even sold them without consent. Sure there are touchup's that occur on images but that's Photoshop. DeepFake porn has yet to make it's way into laws but it's close - I mean where do you stop? drawings? paintings? etc. there is a lot to cover.
The difference being is that the girl (or the guy) who shot a couple of scenes altogether probably suffer from poor decision making or have an addiction. It's your job not to shoot people like that, and instead shoot someone who has a kink for it, or wants that type of fame.

Someone with whom you had shot a 100 scenes, they probably aren't being paid by scene, and it's a solo girl site, or something similar. Therefore, a partnership.

Trouble being that most of them wouldn't do it if they didn't have to, and are often lied to or coerced into doing more than was agreed upon in order to make the scene feel more authentic for the viewer, and if they could, they would take their ass to court, or even something more. But as long as they prey on the vulnerable, they will be fine.

Well, let's test the shame theory... spread your old ass cheeks for me, and let me create a couple of videos of you being fisted, with your face in it.. and let's see if you think it's a matter of debate? You are laughable sometimes... throw your "but she signed a contract" mumbo jumbo to someone else. Fact of the matter is that nothing in this world gives you irrevocable lifetime rights to someone's explicit pictures if you're the only person and/or entity stopping them from leading a normal private life.

If we're talking someone like Mia Khalifa, then it simply wouldn't be possible to remove that much content due to how high profile she is, and besides, she does OnlyFans regardless. So in her case, it's not like she's trying to have a quiet normal life... but for a lot of girls and guys, it's a company or two limiting them from leading a private life like that porn site purveyor has.
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