Come on man, seriously? This is what it comes down to:
MIG-29s flying to Ukraine from Polish airports = Green light.
MIG-29s flying to Ukraine from German airports = "Raises Serious Concerns For Entire NATO Alliance"
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Yes, that was some "offer". Very charitable. "Offering" to have a target painted on the US instead of Poland.
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The "offer" for Poland to deliver themselves came from the US to begin with. Also very charitable, to paint a target on Poland instead of the US.
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Do you seriously think Russia is going to forget the planes are from Poland because instead of flying direct, they had a stopover in Germany first?
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Who knows. If we give them to the US or give them to NATO or whatever, then it's up to them what they want to use it for. Everyone's been giving anti-tank rockets and stuff, so who knows how this would be treated differently. I think the main concern was the combat missions being flow from Polish airports.
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How is it getting yourself involved if there's a "green light" from NATO?
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First of all it was the US not NATO that gave the green light. So why doesn't the US use the "green light" that it gave us for themselves? Why is Poland giving them not escalating and fine but the second the US is supposed to give them it's too risky? Because the retaliatory strikes would be on Poland and not "more important" places like Germany and the US. We are expendable, and exist only to give NATO an extra 24 hours. Poland said that they would give the planes
directly only if ALL nato countries agreed.
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Right, because Poland never wanted to do it, but didn't want to look like the ones rejecting it. Otherwise they could have simply ruled it out from the start.
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They did rule it out from the start, the whole initial news about Poland, Slovakia and Bulgaria delivering planes was fake. Ukraine said that we would be delivering more MIGs then we actually even had. This was reporting by our chancellery of the prime minister the day after as fake news, as it was by slovakia and bulgaria. For bulgaria that would have been their whole airforce.