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Originally posted by KRL
This thread has become pointless and mute. Shaving or not shaving. Does it really matter? There's nothing anyone is going to do about it anyway. The cheaters will always find a way to cheat people.
Choker obviously isn't going to share his test results despite all the requests to do so.
So just continue to trust no one and you'll be fine.
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This thread has become long, but not pointless. Shaving I believe is a big issue. Maybe several long and informative threads on the topic will make a sponsor hesitate. Maybe a webmaster will become a little wiser and start using tools to test spnsors. Maybe we'll all learn ways to slow down the cheating as the methods are revealed.
I've test bought memberships more than once to check a sponsor. That test of one buy per-sponsor suspected didn't prove much at all whether I got credit or not. A counter on hits sent might prove more.
You can know in your gut that you're getting shaved, but little you can do. Maybe we need another thread or two and sub divided the topic a bit. But its high time light is brought to the issue.
I've asked more than one sponsor - what's up with my account? That had mixed results. In some cases - all of a sudden conversions went up significantly (for awhile) and in other cases not.
I think shaving hurts the sponsor more than they realize. If I can get better conversions with another sponsor for what ever reason, guess what? And I finally have enough traffic to make a small difference.
A trade organization to "police" affiliates and sponsors on cheating issues in addition to lobbing congress and doing other things trade organizations do is past over due. This subject has come up before, like at Internext. Problem is, nothing seems to happen. I doubt if a comment in this thread will make the difference... BUT bring it up enough times and somethig might happen.
For Chokers part, he does all a favor by attracting attention to the subject - agree with his method or not.
Thanks GFY - for the forum to have the debate...