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Old 08-30-2003, 08:40 PM  
Snake Doctor
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Originally posted by Ic3m4nZ

It's like if you see a lame sponsor like bigplayers.com giving 50$ for a trial you know that a lot of ur signups are going to be shave so don't use them.
If someone is paying $20 or $25 a signup, it means they probably don't have to shave........but it doesn't mean they won't shave.

I had this discussion with a friend yesterday who was talking about paying $20 per trial and giving access to the processor stats to "prove" there was no shaving.
The point I made was that there are still going to be people who think you shave and still people who will accuse you of shaving.
They could just say you have a script that doesn't pass the reseller id to the processor for a certain % of the joins, so even though the processor stats match yours, you're still shaving.

Its a similar situation to when I was selling cars, and the customer wanted me to knock another $1000 of the price, but I was only a few hundred over invoice and couldn't do it.
I'd bring out the invoice and show it to them and they wouldn't believe it was the "real" invoice.

No matter what the sponsor shows you, the processor stats, screenshots of their own admin, some of you will still think you're being cheated.

There are companies out there right now offering to "audit" sponsors for webmasters, and already everyone is assuming that these companies have been "paid off" by the sponsors being audited to give a good report.

The point I'm making is you'll never know for sure if you're being shaved, and IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE BEING SHAVED.
If a sponsor credits me one signup per month and pays 10K per signup, or the sponsor credits me 1000 signups for the month and pays me $10 per....at the end of the month I still make 10K.

Send your traffic to the place that sends you the biggest check, who gives a fuck how they calculate the numbers to get to the total.

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