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Originally Posted by MaDalton
so at the end it's about you not being able to go to festivals?
your or your wifes parents still alive?
you do realize that even if you feel young and healthy you can still infect and subsequently kill them?
what baffles me the most is that in countries with a low infection rate people don't credit that to the fact that lockdowns, mask wearing and social distancing were introduced - but rather turn into conspiracy lunatics and claim the virus doesn't exist.
you only need to look at countries who called it a hoax and look at their numbers now
Besides the US currently Brazil is the best example for that
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You are talking a lot of bullshit, trying to give people a feeling of quilt. My parents are alive and in the risk group. They stay home and stay away from large groups and have mouthmask when needed. My sister sometimes visit outside in the garden with 3 meter distance (my father probably dies when he gets corona, he got big health issues after a hepatitis vaccination... so he will never take a corona vaccin) So he takes care for himself, no need for a lockdown. His brain is working fine. And for sure he will never get to an elderly home, where most elderly that should have been protected with a lockdown, died. The appointments my father had with doctors where cancelled 3 months cause everything was aimed at corona, luckily he didn't have big problems in those 3 months. No need to put everybody in lockdown to protect the elderly and sick. As we can see now the corona comes, and goes.
Never is proven that 1,5 meter works. What is proven is that elderly and nursing homes wheren't save, locking up the elderly didn't work out well in most cases.
Brazil was and is in lockdowns. Mayors can do that themselves and did, without Bolsonaro. I have a friend and now corona is coming to his city in Brazil. But the lockdown stopped cause people didn't have any money left to stick it out another 2 months. They have the choice, starve from hunger in lockdown, or make money. He rents out houses and many people couldn't pay the rent. Same with a friend that is a taxi driver, no work, no money. That is a reason why things opened up. I will go to Brazil and my biggest worries are the crime stats that might rise like never before. A friend of mine was lucky the lockdown stopped cause she needed cancer treatment, which was also delayed 2 months due to lockdowns. Many people will end up in poverty again in Brazil cause the economy is down and probably sill be down for years to come. Many people also working from home. But yes, Bolsoaro could have given some more tips how people could be safe. But most agree, the lockdown of the economy will cost more lives than corona.
In Holland 2 newspapers now admitted that the government instructed them not to be to critical on the government scientist. Fear had to be spread so people listened to the government. That is why they published the death rate in chocolate letters on the front page and didn't allow other scientist a stage in the newspapers or talkshows. That also opened some peoples eyes how corrupt the media has become. The last years the media has just become like in the USA, an outlet for political parties when it comes to the EU, Trump, Global Warming. That is no conspiracy, that is what happening.
Still more deaths of the flu (11.000) than of corona (6000) in Holland (higher numbers than Brazil per million). While the last flu there was also shortage on intensive care they didn't solve. Some years ago there where 2500 intensive care units, but to save money they brought it back to 1000. An empty bed only costs money (till you suddenly need them).
India, where i am now, also opened up while Corona stats are rising. Also for the simple reason, people start dying from hunger. Better to save and protect the elderly than put the whole country in Lockdown. For me the economy can go in lockdown for years and i still able to eat. But a little selfish to do that, isn't it?
But someday you might wake up also.