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Old 10-13-2019, 01:20 AM  
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Hard one to answer.
aha - how comes that you can not answer it any more ?

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Are there more sponsors, less sponsors paying out, more or less affiliates, designers and the other people who used to make a living in this industry, etc?
forget this fuck about "sponsors" this is childish. nobody ever sponsored anything except
the advertising material. to call this "sponsorship" is insane.

and what have the number of affiliates to do with that?
it is always number X multiplicated with number Y what makes the result.

affiliates today are mainly not webmasters. they do not have sites and they can promote everything at any time.there are media buying companies spending 1 million per month in adult traffic but they still spend 3 million per month on mainstream sites and 5 years ago the spend 2 million ONLY on mainstream sites.

and with "other people who make a living in this industry" you have the same situation.
there are BIG hosters that ONLY work with adult but the majority of hosters works for adult and mainstream.

you should give up this idea that porn is just for selling porn and work with people that do nothing else than porn. this market was starting to extend already when you still was in the biz - but you did not even realize it.

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Are more people using porn tubes as a source of their porn enjoyment, are clicks getting better at converting or harder?
as we have seen here you do not even know how a conversion is measured.
so stop playing with numbers that you do not understand.

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We do know more tubes are opening and this is forcing a shift in the way people make their living. So is any change seeing an increase or decrease over all, not just individual people or companies?
and you think they open because they are bored?
they open because it is a market. but for sure the market can not grow by setting up more tubes - same as membership sites would not grow when they get more competition.

to talk about a market you should first learn what the word means.

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What I know for sure is the good old days of 20 years ago are over.
When porn shops turned over $1 million or more every year in just the location the served,
and paid 200.000 only for rent in this location. and btw. a million revenue for a shop is
quite little.

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cable companies paid up to $100,000 for a movie,
if you can show me that a cable company EVER paid 100.000 for one of your movies I will apologize and you can call me stupid til the end of your days.

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hotels another big chunk, magazines were a gold mine, phone sex was another gold mine.
hotels are still here - magazines are outdated because of the internet (not only in porn)
and phone sex is the very best example to show that you contradict yourself.
there are no phone sex tubes. phones sex is a human service that can not even be
copied. so WHY do you think free videos killed their biz?
if that would be the case why did it not kill the cam biz?

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Now with so much free porn no one has to pay and we all know that effects sales very badly. Big companies are opening paid for streaming TV, films, big sporting events are paid for, no one is opening free TV supported by advertisers.
you can not compare a time when there was no internet with a time when the internet is the number one worldwide media.

there are just a few big players worldwide in the pay-tv business because it's just not big enough to feed many people. the global pay-tv market is currently worth 68 billion dollars in sales. in contrast, the global advertising revenue in free tv is 180 billion dollars.

what you also forget is that 90% of these pay-tv channels are based on internet technology and that even a TV can now replace the computer.

but last not least you have to understand that all this pay-tv providers would not even exist if they would not have the option to advertise.
at the end of the day this companies live from the high number of users they have.
to build up such a userbase is very expensive and this money all goes into the advertising industry.

netflix i.e is til today not profitable but they have now such a high number of users, that they think about changing the model from paid to ad-financed

https://variety.com/2019/digital/new...rs-1203255668/

your problem is that you are neither a businessman nor do you know about economic connections. you judge things as you see them and not as they are.

that's exactly why people like you only earn money when it's easy and others earn much more money when it gets complicated.

business is subject to the laws of eating and being eaten. people with your qualities are unfortunately only good as food.

but somehow that's also the reason that kept me in the biz for 23 years, because the proportion of stupid ones is still high enough to earn more and easier money with some good ideas and concepts than in any other biz.
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