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Originally Posted by thommy
i never said they are dead - that was paul who said that.
but porn-membersites are not "the product" anymore that would keep thousands of affiliates alive as the buyer market is limited.
I also said that the existing ones COULD get a bigger attention when it comes to affiliate IF they would fulfill the needs of the new affiliate generation.
within all my advertisers there are just 2 that send a bit traffic to paysites because there are just a very few that are offering this options.
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I was just responding to your post where you said the business model is a bad one, or dying, or dead, or whatever you said. LOL I was just pointing out that paysites are NOT dead. So we agree.
But Jel (as is often the case I might add) has crystalized the issue nicely:
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Originally Posted by Jel
They can't fulfil those needs of the new aff generation because the payouts to affiliates aren't high enough.. that's the single reason. You can't raise the payouts (by much) because the product (paysites) has been devalued by theft and workarounds like dmca, and used as free inventory to sell products B,C, etc (pills, dating). You can't bid on a space that is giving you $40, $50, $60 per paysite join when you are bidding against placements that give out $70+ per pill sale. Which I think is one of the points being brought up - far from 'driving' porn, the ad space as it is now is killing porn - to a degree.
For paysite owners it's slightly different with regards to ad networks, as their LTV is a lot higher ofc (which you touched on in one of your earlier posts).
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ALL forms of 'mass media' these days are based on ad revenue (except feature films). TV, radio, the Internet (mainstream sites or porn) - it's all the same ad business model. Which is fine. But the product being sold, either given away or bait-and-switch, is porn. Just like the TV show itself is the "product" while the television STATION is the "ad network". Again, Jel put it best so sorry for lamely repeating what he wrote so well.
Thing to remember also is the adult biz is JAM PACKED with people who want to make a quick buck. So to shoot content with a recoup date of 2 years vs. 3 months is too daunting for them. They are like day traders vs. long term investors. Over time, the long term investor wins because it's more profitable, he is in it longer and he can ride out those 'bad days' whereas day traders have a few bad weeks and they are out of biz.
So it all depends on your Goals and what kind of life/lifestyle you want to have, that's all. No real arguments here. LOL