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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd
No worries, I am a New Yorker and I am used to not nice words. LOL Besides, I am just trying to learn here so thank you for your responses. 
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the very fist thing i saw when i joined this biz in 1997 was the fact that it was made by amateurs and if there is the money in it that we all have expected than that this will not be for a long time. where is money to make the professionals will show up.
so my intension in all those years was to tell everybody my visions and make them smarter.
many of this people hated me for it and called me a fool but on the long term all my predictions came true and the ones that have listened to it and reacted are still in the game.
it is not very hard to predict those things if you are at least a bit skilled in economy and you are willing to look at the negative aspects.
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But I would then ask: how does this person with 10K from Grandma do this from scratch with little to no knowledge of the game? He would burn through that 10k in a couple weeks before he learned enough/failed enough to get good at it.
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well this example was NOT meant as the usual case. i have also seen people who had money losing all because they thought it is too easy.
i know personally a few of the other group that is indeed successful and it was maybe because they came to me first and i did not sell them the traffic because i saw they will lose all with the skills they had.
i invested a lot of time into them and teached them step by step what to do and how to interpret what they see. today this hours of teaching them are paid multiple times because they are my customers and spend a lot of money with me and rarely have a question or need my attention.
so to answer your question:
it all depends who you believe.
it is the same thing as SEO. 90% of the SEO rules are completely bullshit and every skilled informatic or maths professional can tell you that they are technically impossible or do not make sense.
the 10% you have to really know about SEO are not so easy to find as only an asshole would tell you the right winning numbers for the lottery and an asshole is not smart enough to find them out.
but essentially the basic of media buying is that you must accept to lose money in the start and you must realize that this money is not lost because you got information in exchange.
imagine: if you convert 1:100 you are doing ONLY 99% wrong
so the real goal on media buying is not concentrating on this 1% as it will not bring you sufficient numbers fast enough.
a smart mediabuyer is concentrating on the bigger number - the 99% that did NOT convert.
if you are able to bring the error quote from 99% to 98% you have doubled up your result.
this is the reason why modern internet marketing CAN NOT work without a clickid as you will ONLY know all about the sale but you know nothing about the ones that did NOT buy.
the clickid (and btw. I was the inventor of the clickid in 2006/2007) changed the complete internet marketing worldwide.
compared with a good tracking system you could suddenly see that landingpage1 worked
profitable but the sales came only from android and IOS users with a safari browser did not sign up.
when you know that you can either find the reason why it does not work with them (mostly design or CSS issues) or sou send this traffic to a page where you can see positive results for IOS/safari.
but even when you think this is all you need to know and learn you are completely wrong because when we are talking about traffic we are actually talking about people.
a professional advertiser knows the most about people.
you can show me whatever banner you want and whatever landingpage you want and i will tell you where the problems are (and you can be sure i will find a problem everywhere because I have learned all that what no self-made designer have learned)
i can tell you about male colorblindness in color combinations - i can tell you about readability of fonts - i can tell you about fontsizes and color signals and i can tell you that you will not be able to bring a message to a user when you are using a never stopping gif as the human eye will always go automatically to the movement.
these are just the BASICS of advertising and believe me this board does not have enough space to write down what i can tell you about it that you have never ever even looked at.
so no - it is not easy and not fast - but it is also NOT impossible.
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I understand what you are saying but, as always, I only really care about how MY BUSINESS can grow, and I do not see a way our business models could merge strategies. If I wanted to be a media buyer pushing dick pills and cams then maybe I would care more but that is not the life I want to live. I want to sell something, not jiggle margins like a day trader. But hey, to each his own.
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i am talking about YOUR business too.
i just tell you that there is a huge group of people out there that does nothing else that buy - optimize - and make it profitable.
you will NEVER compete with this guys because they are universes ahead.
but why a fuck do you guys not try to reach these people by just adding a few really simple technical things.
this same technical things can even help the few webmasters that are skilled with this modern techniques.
it is available since 2007 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - 12 years ago !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it made the complete affiliate market in the whole world 1000 times bigger and you guys still donīt get it.
if you do not believe me ask andy wullmer (the traffic captain from trafficparter)
he was in that time CEO from SGM and SGM back than was the first company worldwide that implemented the clickid for me only (and they hated me for it first because they could not understand it too)
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PS: I'm not a billionaire.
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i start my 3rd billion right now as the first 2 did not work out :-)