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Old 08-11-2019, 07:49 AM  
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- A model now makes 400 euro for a shoot and several hundreds or thousands a month on chaturbate saying she is a pornstar. She/He/Trans has much more options now to make money.

- When people where able to buy porn by Ideal bank (cost 0,30 cents per transaction) instead of telephone (20 - 50% of the transaction) i saw my income more than tripled in a year.

- A magazine made money cause of porn images, classifieds ads, sex stories, advertisement. Look what Adult Friendfinder makes, Backpage made, traffic companies make reddit makes... worldwide! etcetra. Only adultfriendfinder isn't interested in porn pictures or the advertiser must put them up (user generated content). I read a book about the history of porn in Holland, must ended up with no money at all due to circumstances (like the internet/ drugs/ bad investments/ living too large). I had a free classifieds porn site already 15 years ago, why buy a magazine with ads that are 4 weeks old and a reply takes also days/weeks. On my free sextories site i put even Paul Markhams pictures at the stories So in a way, you fucked the magazines also, just like the tubes ;)

- Magazines even made money putting in fake ads so people could sent a letter to the magazine and they would sent it to the author for 10 guilder ;)

- Recently Beat Uhse and Scala are taken over by EDC Internet (Dutch company) who started 15 years ago in an attic. He looked outside Europe and selling worldwide. And making more than regional sexshops with a market reach of maybe 50 - 200.000 people in medium large cities.

Magazines are history. If i tinder for free i see more porn than i could find in 1 magazine. And real amateurs

the fact ist that not one of this dino companies ever understood the internet.

beathe uhse, playboy, hustler and whoever else did NEVER even get in the near of the noname companies that have started with internet and have been focused on internet.

the big nameīs market share in internet is a joke compared to the millions of internet enterpreneurs that have seen their future in the www.

when TV came up there have been many people crying like paul does because they where focused on the cinemas. they will not understand til today that the market with free movies is thousands of times bigger as the cinema market ever was, just for the reason that movie-income from cinema was always related to the ticket price and the popcorn and coke. if you give the movie for free you have options to get on the buyers complete budget and that makes it so valuable.

alone in our little network we are generating around 100.000 free signups per month in the different advertisers sites. roughly 3-4% in average of this people will ever buy the product wich are possibly 3000 to 4000 buyers with a livetimevalue of around 150-200 euro in dating and around 400-500 euro in cams.
BUT: as the market today is completely different of before the same revenue again is made with the 96-97% that do NOT buy the product because smart advertisers are using this data they got on the free signup and selling this user who signed up in a dating site (but never paid there a cent) something completely else. and this "else" have no limitation - it can be the next holidays or a car insurance.
people that are able to think above the horizon do know very well that the real value is in the existing contact possibility to someone who is a consumer. and no matter WHAT he is consuming - if you have his contact you can sell him all he might need til the end of his life.

what paul does not and will never understand is that the biz he was in just focused on 0,29% of the consumers budget - and this 0,29% for pron have been in 1996 0,29% and they are still 0,29% - the only thing that have changed is that with growing of the internet we got more people with lower buying power in the net and MUCH MUCH MUCH more who compete for this buying power.

the complete pott we are focusing WITH porn today is approximately 1000-2000 times bigger as in paulīs stone-age
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