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Old 06-09-2019, 07:11 AM  
Diomed
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham View Post
The window for civilisations to develop and become advanced enough to travel space is very small.

Man has been on Earth 500,000 years give or take. It's only in the last 60 years that we have had technology to leave Earth in any for and we still regard getting to Mars a major under taking.

The science required to fly to another sun and it's planets is beyond us and Alpha Centauri is 4.22 light-years from Earth. And there's nothing on the planets that shows signs of life.

The massive investment it takes to fly the universe would bankrupt the Earth and any civilisation that can afford it will be advanced to the point that will probably kill their planet like we are doing now. But assuming some civilisation has managed to get to this point they will want a return on their investment and will be here to exploit what we have. Not taking random flybys on aircraft, visiting dirt farmers and yokels here.

A more logical explanation is this is top secret military stuff and nothing more. The military is well capable of putting out the info.
Logic in the traditional sense has nothing to do with it.

Once a species is able to abridge two planets, it will likely survive forever. Imagine our technology in the last fifty years X 20,000 years. With unfettered unabated progress.

Now imagine it X 300,000 years.. and with each and every year.. Evolution, growth, perfection.

Do not make the mistake of comparing how we have shaped the last 300 years and what choices we've made to what they would do.

Balance (substainability) would be the first problem they solved.

That kind of time plus evolution equals something you cannot begin to comprehend. A balance with universal law that maintains almost no waste, laws even.. That we have yet to begin to discover.

Imagine a species that has evolved past any and all deception. One of which knows exactly who they are, where they come from, and what they are doing as a unified population of (hell, just say 5 billion).

Degrees of control and a mastery over nature and the universe that humans would consider god-like.

An understanding so complete its impossible to for you to comprehend. Not so much as a wasted or frivolous action in the mix.

Don't make the mistake of projecting your world view toward their complete universal understanding. These fellas are as old as time and sand.

The only thing you can rightfully presume, is their adherence to natural law.

Craftsmen are what they are.. Now just imagine what tight of a finish you can get after 50,000 years of progressive perfecting.

It would be air tight, as evolution is.. Near flawless in execution.

Once you are able to maintain your origin planet, and safeky* abridge to space.. You get to join the "community".

The universe is teaming with life, and right now we live on an island.

We are the natives in the jungle.. and they are Tokyo.
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