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Originally Posted by thommy
the EU is a VERY VERY old idea - and it was actually a french and english idea NOT a german.
but europe knew already in the 60s that they can not survive long term without some kind of union.
everybody knew that it will be hard to get things in common and the biggest problem of the EU was, that they did not adapt the freedom from the single EU countries and make it a common standard - they took the prohibitions. a little bit more balance would have been better.
on the other hand every kind of union is based on compromises. even when you have a girlfriend or a wife you have to agree to a compromise. now image you have 28 girlfriends.
the EU is nothing for egoists who do not care others or the furture of their own children.
everbody kenw it from the start. what they did not know was that the internet have such a power to spread lies and influence people with wrong or half true information.
conspiracy theories were always welcome in the world of the dumb ones that do not really how how the world is spinning.
the smart ones are also here not the problem. the uneducated haters are the problem.
unfortunately we can not throw the dumb ones out of the EU (what would make mostly a lot more sense as to throw the immigrants out). it is the responsability of each single country to educate their citizens. if they donīt do or allow to promote lies in the name of freedom of speech - we will end up in civil wars and possibly worldwide wars again.
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The EU was a good idea when it was the Common Market, a bloc of countries setting the same trade rules, cross border cooperation, visa rules, etc and reserved for countries with a sound economic structure. It turned bad when it became the EU and started to enlarge taking in weaker countries, giving them the vote, allowing workers to move from country to country and need welfare support from their new country.
Cameron tried to change the rules when he renegotiated the treaty. Denied a stop to unregulated EU immigrants he turned to welfare benefits and Poland said
NO. All he got was a temporary stop.
I've linked you time and again to the problems, showing you EU stats. So no bullshit about lies. And every time you try to give a reason why Brussels and Strasbourg should rule Europe you fail to give a reasonable answer.
Because the only changes unique to the EU are disasters. So much for you theory on we have to trust politicians and bureaucrats to get it right.