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Old 04-08-2019, 06:48 AM  
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So how did they miss Greece? Do you see how bad the EU is at keeping to it's own rules? Also if all the economies are good, why are over half the EU net receivers of funds from the other countries? https://www.cer.eu/insights/eurozone...poor-countries
again you do not understand what the EU is.
the example greece is a bad one as you and everybody else know that they falsificated their balance to get into the EU.

yes that did happen but you can be sure that it will not happen a second time.

but anyway - greece is on a good way and the day is not so far when they will be a payer and not a receiver anymore.

the falsification of the balance had only one really bad effect, that their own growth after the 2008 crisis went to hell.

their growth rate was at -11% and not it is at +2.1 - so you still think the EU can not do nothing for a country that is in trouble ?


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And why are these even on a list to join? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future...ummary_t able

very simple: because they are in Europe and they have a right to be in the EU as soon as they are matching the rules.

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Do you really want to see an enlargement of the countrieswho take out more than they put in? BBC NEWS | Europe | Paying for the EU budget

why did you not kill your daughter when she was born. she only cost you money !

one thing that you definitely not get is that economy is a longterm thing.
if you want a buyer you have to help him to get into a position that he CAN BUY.

all aides we send to third world countries is an investment in the future.
china is a good example. china is the number one buyer in the world.
if you delete china and india from the buyers list because they are "shit holes" you can
forget ALL economies on the fucking planet.

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Againshit at keepingtothe rules. All the refugees who left |Turkey to go to States where they get more money are illegal migrants. People fleeing war stop when they reach a safe country. Then there are the 100,000s coming from Africa.
come one paul - why do you lie. show me ONE country in the world that says yes to ILLEGAL immigrants.

what do you think means the word "ILLEGAL" ?????

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Yes our leaders are fucking us up. We need direct access to people who will represent the people who elect them.

and these are people with YOUR understanding ?

or people like boris johnson that tells people lies and after they vote for this lies he even admits that he have lied ?


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When that community is a tiny elite and not the people of the country. The results are fuck up.
now you sound like KKK

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You still fail to give one example of something the EU has achieved that non-EU countries haven'tor can't
you failed to read and listen - and thats why i will not reapeat it again and again.

see your country failing - and keep in mind that the rest of europe will applaude when that happens.

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Individual rules will always apply, but they will be small things the major issues will all be under central control. https://www.ft.com/content/8fa3569c-...e-7aedca0a081a
aha and what does britain like to do?
getting hitler elected or return to the death penalty but stay in the EU ?

you are afraid on one hand that countries with very other world views and standards COULD POSSIBLY join the EU and on the other side you see those standards as a burden.

WHAT EXACTLY do you want ?????

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You said a very interesting thing.

Do you really think central government is able to resolve issues that effect different countries, cultures and economies? As far apart as Greece and Germany or the UK and Bulgaria, etc?

you are the very best example WHY we have governments that give goals in hands of people who have the skills.

it is funny that people who do NOT have the skills know it better.

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Your problem is keeping the EU together. Many of it's citizens are so sick of it they vote for the only option dedicated to undoing it's hold. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36130006 No one is talking about doing away with the trade agreements, the cross border cooperation, visa free travel or any of the good things the EU has brought. They're simply scared of the way the centralist have taken hold.

nope - the problem is that even in europe we still have around 20% uneducated idiots.
you are one of them but you are the MINORITY and this is what you do not get.

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Tell us why you are still in favour of losing your democratic rights to the centre? Do Germans see it as a way of running Europe? They've had two goes at that and look where those tries took us. You run the risk of being at the mercy of small countries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future...ummary_t able with those countries votes out weighing the stronger nations.
what democratic right do I lose when I can not decide with whom and it what kind of contract the EU should make deals?

but you will be very happy when britain is able to deliver war tools to the terrorists and war countries again without someone that stop them from doing that.

and you will be the first that complaints when the first UK citizen died from a british bomb.

you are a dreamer and so far from reality that it is a shame for a nation to have such dumb citizens.
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