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Old 08-24-2003, 08:21 PM  
emthree
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Join Date: Jun 2003
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Okay, Let just say you guys (whoever is interested) wanted to purchase such a program, coded to meet the demands of a Direct Marketing Campaign.

-How much would you be willing to pay for such a program?
-What type of payment methods do you have available in your favor?
-Will you be willing to provide ID/Pictures to verify your identity/name?
-Will you confirm order by phone?
-Have you any idea what requirements, demands it takes to run such a program?
-Will you require a tutorial? or Live assistance?
-What OS do you run?

Note:
-Private programs are not publicly released and marketed
Reason: Less copies sold = Steady flow of traffic, Little to no competition
Reason: Keeps the 'method' alive and fresh as possible

1) In my view, programs such as Direct Advertisers such as Chat Bots...fall in the range of 'Private' Applications, due to the fact that such things are not generally available for anyone in the general PUBLIC to purchase.
-Mainly this is the case because, protocol encryption is very hard to crack and have it work in your favor (winsock connections)
-Programming Complicated Chat Bots requires Tons and Tons of Mental/Physical labor.
(Thousands and Thousands of lines of code are usually used for such programs.)
-Those that do manage to bypass the encryption, are smart enough and know the potential to keep the program on the low, and limit production.

2) I would have to say such an application [MSN/Yahoo Chat Bots] should be valued in the range of $4,500-$8,000+ ( Depending on the amount of work put into the Project, as well as the program complexity).
There is potential to make way more than this givin time.
(That's how I see it, please let me know what you guys think)

-Price is usually higher for private programs than publicly sold programs.
EX: A Chat Bot is coded, the programmer slaps a $400.00 price tag on it since he is selling it to the general public...
-Now 1000+ people purchased this Application earning the programmer $400,000+...now the 'method/area' is flooded that the Chat Bots advertises in...earning the person behind the bots close to SHIT. Obviously no one wants this to happen.

Note: This is becoming the case with Yahoo CHAT ROOM Linkers, documentation as well as code sniplets were released for Yahoo Chat rooms. Aside from the flood of Yahoo Chats, Yahoo Instant Message Spam is not as great...there is still potential.

-However MSN / MSN CHAT receives it's share of Bot Spam, but if you ever took the time to observe the Messages/URLs they are coming from 3-4 GUYS alone who are just promoting to their fullest potential.

I rather not say more. But as for me I'm currently perfecting my methods, ideas as well as doing a ton of debugging.


I have had over 5+ Years with Direct Marketing/Bots, ranging from paid chat services...to free public chats. I have to say Bots are a very smart approach to advertising, but they are only as good as the user behind the bots. The outcome usually determine on your knowledge of what the recipients are looking for, also you should know the demographic you are targeting.

And you MUST always honor a RemovesList/BlackLists, as well as filter out areas/nicks that can possibly be young children. If you be an honorable person, you will be repaid greatly. This goes for every aspect of marketing.

-I'm not selling anything at the moment, but it's something I would consider for the near future after I do some more debugging. ( Private Copies )
-My programs usually consist of all the 'EXTRAS' to keep a self sustaining program, requires little to no interaction as well as protect your identity and keep you safe as possible.

Projects: Usually Coded in C++/C++#NET

BTW: Sorry for the long document lol, I just felt the need to state the above as most people who have no background in the area will just jump all over you and act like morons.

-I would like to hear everyone's views.
-What do you guys think of Direct Marketing?
-Direct Marketing, that honors remove requests that is.
-If anyone would like to speak, please leave your contact information.

Last edited by emthree; 08-24-2003 at 08:36 PM..
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