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Originally Posted by Robbie
My opinion in hindsight all these years later is that...ALL of them were in on this. Mueller damn well knew what was really there. As did Powell and every other top intelligence official.
The establishment had an agenda, and they did it.
We ended up in a war with Iraq. Lots of people got filthy rich. Meanwhile, young men and women in the military lost their lives and the losses to Iraqi's were through the roof.
That's a lot of dead people. You are implying that Mueller was just some dumbass with no knowledge...and yet he STILL testified as if he DID have knowledge.
So either he's an incompetent fool...or he's complicit.
The guy is no fool. He's part of the problem for our country and the entrenched deep state bureaucracy in Washington D.C.
People like him have brought misery, pain, and death worldwide for decades. Just look at what our govt. has done since WW2.
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How would Muller known any of it ? Not in the scope of the FBI. They are strictly domestic.
Muller's job was director of FBI which has no authority to investigate foreign intelligence and probably would have been like pulling teeth to get any of it from the CIA or NSA.
And they would have to answer why they want to know because it's not in the scope of their authority. They would have to justify any request with a specific investigative lead in need. And they still may not give them all that they may have had on it. Just what they thought was needed and were willing to.
Now, today, that would come under the Sec Of Homeland Security to co-ordinate that intel from inside the us (FBI) and that outside the US (pentagon,nsa,cia and more than a dozen others).
That fact of nobody sharing info when it was needed in a valid investigation is what caused the forming of DHS. But I see it as still largely ornamental co-ordination.
Nobody wants to share their intel because it will leak out other services. At least that fear still exists.
It's fairly clear to me that when Cheney was sec of defense, he wanted to go further than GBush1 wanted to go and found the opportunity. He stacked the deck under GBush2.
They manipulated existing data he knew was false.
Especially the WMD issue and that was their key argument for military action.
They knew at the time that Hussein had fabricated that data to thwart off his local adversaries. that was the official conclusion after gulf war 1.
The government knew it way before 911. but they had to build a case. Suddenly that bad intel was turned to valid intel again.
Remember during gulf war one that all those baby milk factories and pharma factories getting bombed on bad intel.
If it were me, there were enough violations to the no fly zone then that would have ended the deal for the end to hostilities to actually start them up again.
Cheney wanted to bring the government all the way down. He had to build a case, It was his job. He knew more about what was going on inside Iraq than anyone else in government. Powell just delivered the case created to the UN months after they already had authorization for war. So it's just making a case for public support.
But weeks after that infamous speaking at the UN, Powell found out a few weeks later through the cia that the case was somewhat a lie. They had put a rush on this so nobody could really fact check it well.
For Cheney,
One more case of the poor use of patriotism for public opinion slanting to do the deed of war.
Al Qaeda was already the enemy in Afghanistan, so they tried to link them to Iraq. Nothing really there. But that is not what we were told, was it. But they did come in after we took the government down because they could.
I would advise anyone who does not clearly remember what was being said at the time to go back and look at it again.
But you can't tie Muller to anything in either gulf war. It's not in the scope of the FBI.
The FBI does have a job to protect the US from 'any threat that can manifest on our soil'.
And they don't investigate something outside the US unless it is directly tied to a existing investigation inside the US. Those duties belong to other services.
In fact, it was because the FBI could not get complete data from the CIA that may be to blame for possibly preventing 911 in the first place.