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Originally Posted by Robbie
First off...you're a scientist? And millionaire playboy? WTF are you doing on a Porn business board man! 
But seriously...you seem to be knowledgeable...In every report I ever heard on television about hydrogen powered cars they spoke of how it is so cheap and abundant.
What you are saying is in direct opposition to that.
I am in the entertainment biz (music and adult)...and I am an expert in both. Not so much in hydrogen. And all the other businesses that you are in. (that's why I am on GFY)
What is the deal then with all that misinformation that I and the general public were being told about hydrogen back in 2005?
Also I just checked Google again about hydrogen:
"Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the Universe"
That sounds pretty cheap to me. But again...you have more expertise, so lay it out for me.  |
Yes it is the most abundant in the universe. We live here on earth.
Look at your oceans. Pour some tap water.
Going to burn that in your furnaces ? Your car ?
Hydrogen does not 'BURN' without oxygen. That's why HHO makes sense.
If it were abundantly 'cheap' we wouldn't be using fossil fuel at all.
Call you local weld shop and ask how much for a compressed cylinder !
(the only form you might buy it in)
On second thought, don't since you will unlikely be able to understand or equate how much volume you are getting to compare to costs of methane or propane.
But you can look at it by btu content.
@ 300btu per hr per cubic foot, it has no where the punch of methane @ 1000btu hr or propane @ 92k btu per gallon of liquid but now you have to equate that to cf gas.
It is lighter than air at a atomic weight of just 1 so it's not like you can just suck a bunch up at ground level. But it can be separated by vacuum.
It is the cost of breaking it down to just hydrogen. As compared to drilling a whole in the ground and piping it for methane.
Charging de-ionized water by solar electric is the cheapest way to make Hydrogen. Takes a lot of real estate to make a bunch via solar.
Lots of hopeful dreams were put forward when hydrogen fuels cells were making a market. (Not the same as just burning hho in your car) But it's the cost of production AND distribution that hinders it.
Definitely the cleanest and smartest but not effective yet in today's world.