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Old 06-28-2018, 08:08 AM  
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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark View Post
Hahaha that subject seems like it was ages ago already...

Here's a question: If Trump were to reverse everything as far as the trade war goes, or maybe put it off for a year so that new deals could be made, would Harley Davidson and the others halt their plans to build more components offshore?

If Trump were to do something like

(a) slowly raise tarrifs on imports
(b) Give tax incentives to companies to build more in the US
(c) Ensure that those incentives were used to hire more workers

Would this solve the problem and have more products built in the US? And wouldn't this work if all countries started doing the same things where possible too?
I would say "no".

Every country...including your own...already have huge tariffs on the U.S.

I watched Pres. Trump speaking in North Dakota last night (to thousands of cheering citizens).
And what he said made perfect sense to me (as it did during the campaign).
He said: We are $500 BILLION dollars in deficit with our trade partners around the world. We aren't STARTING a trade war. The trade war happened years ago and we LOST thanks to our so-called leaders selling out the American worker. So we get killed in trade and in many cases actually pay billions of dollars to have our military DEFEND many of these countrys!
And this was my favorite thing he said: "Global freeloading and taking advantage of the United States is OVER"

Mark, if Canada wants "free trade"...then your govt. shouldn't have been putting tariffs on our products all along.
Pres. Trump actually offered Canada and the EU for all country's to drop all tariffs against each other.
The EU (which was actually formed to "compete" with the U.S. in world trade) said "hell no" and so did your leader Trudeau.

They don't WANT to stop taxing our products. They love having all that extra juice into THEIR economy's. They LIKE it when our leaders screwed our own country and enriched Canada and the EU.

That's smart for Canadian leaders and EU leaders.
But just stupid for our country.

And that's over now.

All Trump is saying is that the U.S. will now start protecting our own workers and jobs.

The media and your leader call that kind of thing "protectionism" and "nationalism".

And yet...THIS IS WHAT TRUDEAU HIMSELF SAID:
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said today his government will work to protect Canadian steel and aluminum workers as the tariff tiff between Canada and the U.S. ramps up.
"I've assured them that we're going to be working with them to make sure that Canadian jobs are protected and that Canadian workers and communities continue to do OK despite these unnecessary and punitive actions from the United States," Trudeau told CBC Radio's Information Morning host Portia Clark during a stop in Halifax.

So the double standard and hypocrisy continues.

Canada (and the EU) have had huge tariffs in place on U.S. goods for decades. And as Trudeau said...they are going to PROTECT their jobs and workers.

Yet when we do the same thing...Trump is attacked for it.

And THAT is what the American people are sick of. We are tired of being fucked over all the time.

FAIR trade is what's going to happen under President Trump.

For instance...our steel and aluminum industry's have been decimated. Canada has dumped steel on us for years.

United States Steel company was running on life support. Hasn't opened a new plant in 32 years. Closed almost all of them.
Now? They are OPENING 6 NEW plants and hiring people for good wages.

It's "America First" here in the U.S. now. Just like it has ALWAYS been "Europe First" in the EU and "Canada First" in Canada.
It's only fair.
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