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Diomed · 06-05-2018, 01:39 AM

Between mainstream and paid traffic campaigns,

It's no longer reasonable to invest my time into chat sales.. Or frankly, to deal with the headaches of overseeing employee performance (whom I keep local and do not outsource for reasons of trust, as well as backend productivity - as in no bunk/carded sales burning sponsors).

Not something I would suggest outsourcing to people you do not trust like Philippine firms (unless you have a way to prevent them from carding to inflate the numbers).

This is a "semi" manual method that could easily be automated, but still very much viable and current "as is". It's unique to anything else I've seen (and I've seen it all) on a few very important key points.. and can be adapted to just about any chatroom real estates.

I've only used it for cc joins but it could be EASILY setup for PPL.. And after the traffic gets filtered, believe me the joins are as productive as any other methods including media buys/paid traffic.

A clever person could scale the shit out of this method. I left it semi manual to set the method apart from bots, and without going into too much detail, semi manual allows you to save many a sale by allowing that extra little push into conversion.

The real beauty to this method is the unique angle and bleeding edge creatives / psychology.

It also filters out traffic origin to creatives and pitch points that convert in their own right, separate to the chat sales. So you can run simultaneous paid campaigns / chat campaigns through the same funnel.

All in all it's extremely adaptable and unique. I've never been one to hire programmers or frankly people who I don't know locally because of the nature of my adult campaigns. Not that they are adult, but rather because when you live on paid traffic you have to keep your campaigns as under the radar as possible.

You tend to learn that when you start seeing traffic brokers rip off your campaigns verbatim.

Only looking to sell the method to two people, or a single person for twice the price. That is, if anyone is interested.

My suggestion would to be keep it semi manual and do it yourself for a few weeks before you even think about hiring out. That, or know a clever programmer you can trust. The predicative text and herding/filtering could easily be programmed non manual. But I always found having a real person on the job gave that extra inch in authenticity / flexibility to as lib or pull from "if X" scripts converted 20x what pure bots can do.

The base angles of this method are utterly unique, it's a fast conditioning process toward the legitimate, and a quick funnel.

I will say, the thought of PPL is very interesting to me for this method (DOI would be easy). My only concern would be limiting X traffic to such a low dollar amount vs a card join.

That is, unless your harvesting your own leads via API and reselling them. That could get very interesting. I stayed away from the idea because I think without API your limiting the value to X traffic greatly via regular PPL.

I've used it with free cc joins, dollar joins, and up to $5 cc joins.

Once you understand the basic principles of approach, pitch angles, physcology, and creatives.. there is a lot of flexibility to apply it in many different ways.

People who don't know chat sales scoff at chat sales.. Because most of what they hear about is amateur night methods or ridiculously scaled "shit against the wall" methods that are incredibly obvious and transparent, including worthless sales of no value.

On the other side of that coin, there are people still making a killing of chat sales.. by doing it the right way, banking quality productive sales.

Most of which eventually move to their own mids for more control over continuity.

As it stands, a single person after a little familiarity could easily pull 2-3 cc joins per hour.

The creatives, physcology, and pitch continuity is key.

Feel free to shoot me a private message or email if your interested, serious inquiries only please. Much prefer someone with history from this board whom can be vetted by myself or a mutual acquaintance.

06-05-2018, 01:39 AM
Diomed Converting like it's 1999 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The South Posts: 6,167	Selling chat sales method and accompanying creatives.. Between mainstream and paid traffic campaigns, It's no longer reasonable to invest my time into chat sales.. Or frankly, to deal with the headaches of overseeing employee performance (whom I keep local and do not outsource for reasons of trust, as well as backend productivity - as in no bunk/carded sales burning sponsors). Not something I would suggest outsourcing to people you do not trust like Philippine firms (unless you have a way to prevent them from carding to inflate the numbers). This is a "semi" manual method that could easily be automated, but still very much viable and current "as is". It's unique to anything else I've seen (and I've seen it all) on a few very important key points.. and can be adapted to just about any chatroom real estates. I've only used it for cc joins but it could be EASILY setup for PPL.. And after the traffic gets filtered, believe me the joins are as productive as any other methods including media buys/paid traffic. A clever person could scale the shit out of this method. I left it semi manual to set the method apart from bots, and without going into too much detail, semi manual allows you to save many a sale by allowing that extra little push into conversion. The real beauty to this method is the unique angle and bleeding edge creatives / psychology. It also filters out traffic origin to creatives and pitch points that convert in their own right, separate to the chat sales. So you can run simultaneous paid campaigns / chat campaigns through the same funnel. All in all it's extremely adaptable and unique. I've never been one to hire programmers or frankly people who I don't know locally because of the nature of my adult campaigns. Not that they are adult, but rather because when you live on paid traffic you have to keep your campaigns as under the radar as possible. You tend to learn that when you start seeing traffic brokers rip off your campaigns verbatim. Only looking to sell the method to two people, or a single person for twice the price. That is, if anyone is interested. My suggestion would to be keep it semi manual and do it yourself for a few weeks before you even think about hiring out. That, or know a clever programmer you can trust. The predicative text and herding/filtering could easily be programmed non manual. But I always found having a real person on the job gave that extra inch in authenticity / flexibility to as lib or pull from "if X" scripts converted 20x what pure bots can do. The base angles of this method are utterly unique, it's a fast conditioning process toward the legitimate, and a quick funnel. I will say, the thought of PPL is very interesting to me for this method (DOI would be easy). My only concern would be limiting X traffic to such a low dollar amount vs a card join. That is, unless your harvesting your own leads via API and reselling them. That could get very interesting. I stayed away from the idea because I think without API your limiting the value to X traffic greatly via regular PPL. I've used it with free cc joins, dollar joins, and up to $5 cc joins. Once you understand the basic principles of approach, pitch angles, physcology, and creatives.. there is a lot of flexibility to apply it in many different ways. People who don't know chat sales scoff at chat sales.. Because most of what they hear about is amateur night methods or ridiculously scaled "shit against the wall" methods that are incredibly obvious and transparent, including worthless sales of no value. On the other side of that coin, there are people still making a killing of chat sales.. by doing it the right way, banking quality productive sales. Most of which eventually move to their own mids for more control over continuity. As it stands, a single person after a little familiarity could easily pull 2-3 cc joins per hour. The creatives, physcology, and pitch continuity is key. Feel free to shoot me a private message or email if your interested, serious inquiries only please. Much prefer someone with history from this board whom can be vetted by myself or a mutual acquaintance. __________________ 10 years of experience in: CHAT SALES - PAID TRAFFIC - CONVERSION - CREATIVES - CONSULTATION