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Originally Posted by dyna mo
Sure, I replied to captain howdy and told him don't bother. I was simply being agreeable with him,
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Dude: You said "a video uses violence in everything to point a finger at violence in everything" as if it were a matter of fact, and not of opinion, and suggested it was stupid by adding "did they not think it through?" (
post)
When Cap' said he refused to watch the video, you added "you're not missing anything", and, "the only reason it went viral is due to the shockingly gratuitous violence in it." again as fact, and not as opinion.
Nowhere did you say "I think", or "My opinion is", etc. It seems like, Cap, and the rest of us I assume, are supposed to take what you say as fact, case closed.
Why didn't you encourage him to watch the video anyway, and share his opinions here?
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Originally Posted by dyna mo
proof the video is directed at blacks
1. the violence in the video is committed by blacks and onto other blacks, not whites. no whites at all. Even when the violence is mimicking real events like the shooting the choir in the video copies the Charleston murders, it's committed by a black, the protagonist throughout the video in fact. The stance he makes when murdering the first guy is reminiscent of Jim Crow, you know what a Jim Crow Black is.
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When the first person is shot, he is posing like the cover art of "Jump Jim Crow". The Jim Crow laws were put in place by white people.
In the video, he guns down people in a choir, which is reminiscent of the The Charleston murders that were committed by a white guy.
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Originally Posted by dyna mo
2. the lyrics in conjunction with their place in the video are clearly directed at blacks
We just wanna party
Party just for you
We just want the money
Money just for you
I know you wanna party
Party just for me
Girl, you got me dancin' (yeah, girl, you got me dancin')
Dance and shake the frame
We just wanna party (yeah)
Party just for you (yeah)
We just want the money (yeah)
Money just for you (you)
I know you wanna party (yeah)
Party just for me (yeah)
Girl, you got me dancin' (yeah, girl, you got me dancin')
Dance and shake the frame (you)
If we are going to dissect the video for a message, it's important to include the lyrics.
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I have a few opinions on this.
1. What is only "Black" about the snippet of lyrics you shared above? (Can't white people dance?)
2. If you think it is aimed only at black people, are you saying that there is nothing that white people can learn about or discuss with this?
3. Maybe the lyrics are meant to be different from the video. What's wrong with words completely contrasting the video?
4. Why didn't you post all of the lyrics? If you are going to talk about the lyrics to a song, isn't it important to include all of the lyrics instead of just your choice of a piece of a song?
Here is the whole song.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, go, go away
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, go, go away
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, go, go away
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, go, go away
We just wanna party
Party just for you
We just want the money
Money just for you
I know you wanna party
Party just for me
Girl, you got me dancin' (yeah, girl, you got me dancin')
Dance and shake the frame
We just wanna party (yeah)
Party just for you (yeah)
We just want the money (yeah)
Money just for you (you)
I know you wanna party (yeah)
Party just for me (yeah)
Girl, you got me dancin' (yeah, girl, you got me dancin')
Dance and shake the frame (you)
This is America
Don't catch you slippin' up
Don't catch you slippin' up
Look what I'm whippin' up
This is America (woo)
Don't catch you slippin' up
Don't catch you slippin' up
Look what I'm whippin' up
This is America (skrrt, skrrt, woo)
Don't catch you slippin' up (ayy)
Look at how I'm livin' now
Police be trippin' now (woo)
Yeah, this is America (woo, ayy)
Guns in my area (word, my area)
I got the strap (ayy, ayy)
I gotta carry 'em
Yeah, yeah, I'ma go into this (ugh)
Yeah, yeah, this is guerilla (woo)
Yeah, yeah, I'ma go get the bag
Yeah, yeah, or I'ma get the pad
Yeah, yeah, I'm so cold like yeah (yeah)
I'm so dope like yeah (woo)
We gon' blow like yeah (straight up, uh)
Ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh, tell somebody
You go tell somebody
Grandma told me
Get your money, Black man (get your money)
Get your money, Black man (get your money)
Get your money, Black man (get your, Black man)
Get your money, Black man (get your, Black man)
Black man
This is America (woo, ayy)
Don't catch you slippin' up (woo, woo, don't catch you slippin', now)
Don't catch you slippin' up (ayy, woah)
Look what I'm whippin' up (Slime!)
This is America (yeah, yeah)
Don't catch you slippin' up (woah, ayy)
Don't catch you slippin' up (ayy, woo)
Look what I'm whippin' up (ayy)
Look how I'm geekin' out (hey)
I'm so fitted (I'm so fitted, woo)
I'm on Gucci (I'm on Gucci)
I'm so pretty (yeah, yeah)
I'm gon' get it (ayy, I'm gon' get it)
Watch me move (blaow)
This a celly (ha)
That's a tool (yeah)
On my Kodak (woo, Black)
Ooh, know that (yeah, know that, hold on)
Get it (get it, get it)
Ooh, work it (21)
Hunnid bands, hunnid bands, hunnid bands (hunnid bands)
Contraband, contraband, contraband (contraband)
I got the plug on Oaxaca (woah)
They gonna find you that blocka (blaow)
Ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh, tell somebody
America, I just checked my following list and
You go tell somebody
You mothafuckas owe me
Grandma told me
Get your money, Black man (Black man)
Get your money, Black man (Black man)
Get your money, Black man (Black man)
Get your money, Black man Black man)
Black man (one, two, three, get down)
Ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh, tell somebody
You go tell somebody
Grandma told me, "Get your money, " Black man
Get your money, Black man (Black man)
Get your money, Black man (Black man)
Get your money, Black man (Black man)
Black man
You just a Black man in this world
You just a barcode, ayy
You just a Black man in this world
Drivin' expensive foreigns, ayy
You just a big dawg, yeah
I kenneled him in the backyard
No proper life to a dog
For a big dog
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Originally Posted by dyna mo
conclusion, the message of video "this is America" is not directed at me. It's directed at blacks. Nothing wrong with that at all, there's plenty of black entertainment not directed at me, as there should be.
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Why should art be directed at just one piece of the population? Why do you feel excluded? You seem to say that it's ok for you to ignore or dismiss art because it is made by people of a different color. You could if you want to I guess but you I think you would be missing out and doing yourself a great disservice.
Peace & Art & Love.