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Old 04-26-2018, 11:13 AM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by thommy View Post
dating, gaming, gambling, enhancement products, mobile apps, physical products, holidays, crypto and of course still a few paysites.
but then even bigger market are people who do not focus on ANY markets.
sweepstakes, incentives - alone this 2 biz models are 10 times bigger as the porn industry ever was.
So you include other industries to prove your point.

Then I will do the same about any media where a camera is used. Movies, TV, Cable, Cams and porn are still bigger than businesses advertising them.



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why should i name them ? do you think I will write here the names of my buyers or anybody else do it?
but if you mean the really BIG sites in porn I can tell you that ALL of them are buying ads and/or working with big media buying companies what have the skills and know how to convert.
I didn't ask for names of your buyers. I asked for names, I already have found the lame ducks you advertise for in porn. It proves you make less than we did from porn.



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your big thinking error is that you see the stuff you produced as the product.
if the movie industry in the world would see that the same way they would be bankrupt already.
So they don't care about people downloading for free?

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the longterm big money in any kind of movie production is made directly or indirectly with advertising.
so not the customer is paying for the content but the advertiser will do it.
not even a cinema (where people pay to go in) could live without advertising because the entrance fee would double up.
Bullshit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...grossing_films

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what kind of links do you want?
links to pornhub and pirate bay ?

for what?
Links to anyone advertising to prove you're right.

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pornhub alone buys more movies than all paysites together.
they give jobs and pay more money to their employees as 1000nds of affiliates make together.

where do you think does this money come from? and do you REALLY believe that advertisers would pay it when they could not make profit with it?
Are you saying they now produce more content than was produced in 2000? Or they make more money than the porn industry did in 2000? I will give you that the business has now changed, the days of 1,000s of people making a living from fair to good to amazing are long gone. To be replaced by people very good at scraping dollars from traffic that costs $30 for 6,000 clicks from sites that have a rate of clicks per views sucks. Mainstream is complaining about it all the time. Newspapers have been gutted. The days of them exposing real scandals like Watergate, Child abuse, PENTAGON PAPERS, etc. https://www.google.com/search?ei=sRL....0.Ryi-9iQ4ouM

Because free newspapers can't afford to do in depth investigations. Which ones are supported by ads? Both, but offline advertising paid more so they could dig deeper.

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sorry about the dialyses thing. take care - I still want to fight with you a bit longer.
I will give you that the growth of all advertising dwarfs the porn industry. That was true in the beginning of adverts to today. But in porn, films, cams, dating that falls into the porn sector, isn't going to replace the billions made from selling magazines and films. What you are saying is stupid. You are trying to claim advertising is bigger than people paying for the product. Then all the sites would go out of business.
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