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Old 04-26-2018, 07:33 AM  
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They were forced to adapt and change, they did not. Google penalized them for not learning how to adapt and continuing oldschool techniques instead of learning how to properly manage a business and invest into new ways to offer the produce they provide. Affiliate sites could always convert, it's that they lost their form of getting traffic, which was mainly capitalizing on using the paysites/models brand in Google. When that could no longer work, sales decreased. Which caused them to spend less, making them spiral even faster. Very similar reason why a lot of paysite owners died off. There are several ways to deal with a declining business and those who do not have the experience or business management skills generally get anxiety/afraid and spend less vs what they should be doing, spending more and learning how things have changed and what they can do.

Anyway it was their traffic that disappeared. Reason: Google. Link exchanges could no longer work either because their trade partners also depended on search engine traffic.

Affiliates killed themselves off by not adapting. With all the traffic TGPs had, freeones had, etc etc - they could have became the next pornhub. They did not.

It allowed tubes to walk in and crush them. I dont think i saw a single tgp change until they were frantically wondering what the hell to do because they've lost the majority of their traffic/sales

TGPs offered sample videos and the best pics from every set, now its tubes that do.

We consider tubes an affiliate, so if you do as well, I dont believe it has shrunk that much, there just aren't as many because they have more traffic per property.

What does affiliates no longer being able to receive traffic to fuel their blogs/tgps and other stupid sites have to do with how paysites sell? Paysites can still use pornhub/tubes which has as much traffic as affiliates. We have to pay for adspace, yes. But we also reach far more people in one space. Videos also get user uploaded and brand it that way, without having to pay.

Companies are also working together to receive more traffic/sales. This is something you did not see before, as an industry matures, you see change, it went from small fish feeding big fish, now its big fish feeding big fish and no need for small fish. It costs more to get in and you also make more. Like all maturing industries. Might seem dead when you were deeply involved with the people on the lower spectrum of things, affiliate died off, small paysites died off so I understand why it may appear that way but it's simply not the way it is. Businesses require more work and managing people with actual degrees, who have little adult experience. Because they are cheaper and because the task of ad management is done better by somebody who understands numbers, critical thinking, task efficiency, data reports, etc. - They do not have the time to talk on the boards, so the boards are empty with those who were not able to find roles
it is very refreshing to read some lines from someone who tries to see the situation from a neutral and logic perspective instead of crying around and try to make others guilty for own mistakes.

the problem in adult is that there was a time when everybody could make money with it because everybody had the same skills (: zero).

when i started in 1997 i could make my dog a successful webmaster and i was one of the idiots making a lot of money and did not even know why.

That business became harder was not only a reason of a cheaper audience (when internet became cheaper) it was also divided in 3 groups:

Group 1 was unable to learn. they just made accidentally the right thing at the right time and thought it will go on forever.

Group 2 are the people without own ideas. They want to look forward but they do not have the empathy and marketing knowledge to create something own and unique.
I call them the copiers. An because copying is easy the numbers of copies can be endless.
They are ending up sharing a quite big cake but with too many other copiers.

Group 3 are the people with the long term view - willing to learn and observing the market. Those are the winners because they took all what others did not even see.
They invested the money instead of spending it and they are the ones with the skills, the tools and the manpower.

Most of them are companies meanwhile and they will probably not even read here.

for people who are thinking that GFY or any other adult board is representing the adult industry it really looks like the adult industry is getting down year by year.
but if they would have the complete view they would realize that the opposite is the case.

sure - in these days you will not find many who make 100 k per year - because they split into one group what makes less than 10 k per year an the other group what makes a few million.

overseeing this facts is the reason of wrong convictions as paulīs.
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